On Wednesday, October 05, 2011 03:10:00 PM Dave did opine:

> On 10/5/2011 11:14 AM, Mark Cason wrote:
> > I live out in the country, and in the state I live in, there are no
> > specific codes that I have to follow.  I'm not a licensed electrician,
> > but I've been working with electricity for most of my life.  I follow
> > the NEC, and I have everything in my shop run in conduit.
> 
> I live out in the country also - Midwest USA - and there are basically
> no enforced electrical codes here if you do it yourself.
> Contractors are suppose to get permits which can trigger inspections,
> but oftentimes they do work without permits.
> I have seen some really bad wiring jobs.   It is surprising that more
> buildings do not burn down from poor wiring around here.
> The guy that formerly owned my house was supposedly an electrician.   I
> did some remodeling in the bathroom and ended up ripping out all of the
> walls since they were poorly constructed and
> I found two electrical junction boxes behind the walls that were covered
> over!  It took only a few hours of rewiring to eliminate the boxes.
> The previous owner was simply lazy and sloppy.
> Dave

Been there, done that Dave, this house is a National Homes package.  Very 
little that I have opened up that I didn't wind up ripping out that whole 
wall & starting all over again.  One of the things I found when I was 
remodeling the 'music room' which was in fact the original garage space, 
converted at build time on site to living space, was a copper waterline, 
capped off & buried in the wall, where I assume the original plan had a 
cold water only utility sink, or more likely just a wall faucet, installed 
in the garage.  A trip to town for a frost-free, some more copper and a few 
sweat fittings and I now have a faucet on the front of the house, to hook 
up whatever to.  Why it wasn't done in the first place is beyond me because 
its 20x handier than the one on the back of the house that I had to move 
about 20 feet when we put a _cheaply built_ deck on the back of the house 
20 years ago.  Some folks would cut their nose off for a mosquito bites 
worth of money.  Boggles my mind.

Some of the things I've said about the guy that built this neighborhood 
should have him doing about 19,000 rpm in his grave.

Cheers, Gene
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