On Wednesday, January 25, 2012 08:59:05 AM Sven Wesley did opine:

> > Andy,
> > 
> > Understandable.  The paypal link could be set up so that it could be
> > turned on when funds are needed and turned off when the funding is
> > met. The treasurer would have to stay on top of that though.
> > 
> > Mark
> 
> This must be the most wide spread discussion in ages at this mailing
> list, forums, lists, bills, credits... Doesn't matter, it just shows
> that even the silent people can speak (which also is a Chinese saying).
> :)
> 
> If you guys think that the internal forum works well so be it. To me
> it's not better at all than (for example) cnczone or the mailing list.
> One board all questions, and that makes the mailing list superior. And
> unfortunately, there were many broken links to the forum before.
> Cnczone being commercial? There's no secret I'm a moderator at the
> zone. There's no secret a page with 140 000 members need better servers
> than "our" page. Of course there will be banners. Stating that it's a
> bad idea because the site might go pay-to-view based - will not happen.
> Why on Earth would you bite your own feeder? IF that happens, I'm the
> first guy to leave the site. We're lucky that someone supports the
> LinuxCNC (formerly known as EMC2) community with CPU and storage. So
> who will pay it otherwise? A paypal account seems to be a good idea -
> at first. How should the board/community handle the scenario when a
> "supportive company" transfers $ 100 000 and after a short while
> demands to get their requirements sorted out? Who will be responsible
> for the book keeping? What should happen if there's more money than
> needed? What should happen when there's LESS money than neeeded?..
> 
> My first opinion is still not changed, there are too many communication
> channels for a small (in a community perspective) project.

I've not made a habit of visiting the cnczone, mainly because its another 
forum I'd have to join before I can post & then take active action with a 
browser to track, and it looked to be much less LinuxCNC oriented.  The way 
I have my email setup here, all I do is click next msg, answer if I can, or 
keep on clicking, not near as much fooling around.  So it is very much the 
preferred medium here at the Heskett campsite.

> it seems some
> of you are pretty gnarly when it comes to commercial fundings (you're
> not using Youtube, are you?..). Then kill the mailing list. That's
> commercially based service, even more than the zone.
> 
Kill that and IMO, you'll kill LinuxCNC.

The mailing list is a subscriber based list, and I can post on almost any 
subject, which is likely  how this thread got stated.  The forums generally 
are moderated and I generally hate them because the moderator, for instance 
on the pclos forum they simply delete any post that isn't praiseworthy.  
Bug reports are often not praiseworthy, so squawks about something not 
working often don't last long enough for those that could fix them to see 
them.

> There's not a single response on Roadmap planning nor black/white
> listing - suggestions that _really_ affects the evolution of the
> software. Not even from other developers...
>
As the rest of us are noting.  And having been on this list though 2 BOD 
elections, it does seem to me that is has been longer since the last 
election that it seemed to be between the other 2.  OTOH I have no clue 
what the stated service term lengths were.

> Regards,
> Sven
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