dC::deviation from concentricity
dL::deviation fron longitudinal position (tool length)
dA::tolerance range of cone mating angle
dA/dt::cone wear factor
Tg::load torque applied normal to cone (rotation) axis (taper guage line=center 
of torque?)
P::load (Pressure, tension) along (cone) axis of rotation
TT (bold letter T)::vector representing specific cutter geometry/material
M::(vector?) machinablity figure of merit for billet, given cutter material of 
TT
S::rotation rate around cone axis

alot of video games incorporate a physics model basis for the coordinated 
movements of player avatars.  perhaps the tangible world of substantial stuff 
made of atoms is just not cost effective to precisely simulate.


--- On Mon, 4/9/12, Kent A. Reed <knbr...@erols.com> wrote:

> From: Kent A. Reed <knbr...@erols.com>
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] machine tool tapers
> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Date: Monday, April 9, 2012, 6:22 AM
> On 4/9/2012 8:01 AM, Viesturs Lācis
> wrote:
> > 2012/4/9 charles green<xxzzb...@yahoo.com>:
> >> i wonder if there is any math out there on the
> ideal taper form, given its use in specifed materials and
> load conditions?
> > Ohh, conical fits (I hope that is the correct
> translation) is the
> > thing we have been discussing in university lately.
> > Answer to Your question is: No. Because You skipped
> another (and IMHO
> > the most important) factor: specific use-case also
> applies.
> > What I mean - the angle of taper determines:
> > 1) how well both parts are centered each to other - the
> smaller angle,
> > the better centering;
> > 2) how much will the distance between bases of both
> cones change as
> > the surfaces of cones wear off - the larger the angle,
> the smaller the
> > distance,
> > tolerances on each cone also will increase the
> tolerance of the fit
> > dimensions for smaller cone angle values;
> >
> > So larger angle improves one, the smaller angle
> improves the other, so
> > the optimum value lies somewhere inbetween, changing in
> different
> > situations. That is why there is not the one and only
> answer (which is
> > also my answer to Your original question).
> > The way I see it now is that the load and material will
> determine
> > mostly the diameter (and length) of the taper, but the
> application of
> > particular mechanism (required precision of assembly
> etc) is the main
> > factor to determine the angle value.
> >
> > Viesturs
> >
> >
> 
> Nice argument as far as it goes, Viesturs, but it doesn't
> address what I 
> was taught lo these many years ago by a practicing machinist
> and which I 
> find echoed in my Machinery's Handbook.
> 
> He divided the world of tapers into two classes:
> self-holding and 
> self-releasing.
> 
> The self-holding tapers have small enough angles of taper
> for friction 
> along the tapered surface of the joint to reliably resist
> the torque 
> transmitted from the tool. That same friction makes it
> difficult to 
> release the taper from its socket.
> 
> The self-releasing tapers have large enough angles of taper
> to allow 
> easy removal but require some other means to lock the taper
> in place so 
> it won't slip when torque is applied.
> 
> Presumably only the self-holding tapers would be subject to
> the kind of 
> wear you mention in 2). I suspect the differences within
> this class were 
> due as much to the need to work around patents as to any
> thought of 
> optimization.
> 
> As for the discussion about the varying angles of taper on
> the various 
> Morse tapers, concensus of the sources I read is that Morse
> just wasn't 
> that good with his metrology. Once a mistake is propogated
> into practice 
> through industrial standards, it takes on a life of its
> own.
> 
> Regards,
> Kent
> 
> 
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