On Monday 16 July 2012 09:10:43 andy pugh did opine:

> On 16 July 2012 10:27, Gene Heskett <[email protected]> wrote:
> > No 7mm by anything, and that is the size I'll have to use for the
> > larger section
> 
> I have never seen a 7mm screw.

I got to wondering about that.  Its marked 7mm, but I'll measure it, it 
does look bigger to me too, but my eyeballs have seemed to be out of 
calibration of late.

> I did once see a 9mm nut.
> You almost never see the "2nd choice" sizes in the table here:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_metric_screw_thread
> with the exception of 3.5 which is used in electrical wall-boxes.
> And Bugattis.

Humm, my calculations for the care and feeding of G76 might stand some 
tweaking.  I was desirous of a nearly interference fit in the 1/4-28 thread 
I was cutting when I wrote that wrapper, and I seem to have achieved that 
goal in that I've not seen any great evidence of powder gas coming through 
the thread clearance yet.  The actual high pressure seal is beyond the 
threads. I added that step to the machining of the #209 nipple precisely to 
concentrate the forces of metal to metal contact and achieve a better seal  
as the OEM version didn't have that concentrator. But the threads are also 
well greased with an anti-seize, so it may be that the grease is trapped by 
the seal ridge and powder gas, even at 20kpsi, has no place to go.  That 
BTW is one of the designed in problems with inline ignition black power 
weapons.

If the front face of the breech plug or its seating surface in the barrel, 
has become gas cut, allowing gas to blow past and into the threaded area, 
the gas pressure against the thread thinned end of the barrel might get 
high enough the barrel banana peels forward off the plug.  One maker claims 
his can use true smokeless powder, but several who have, with its 50 to 60 
kpsi pressures have had it do just that, with severe damages to the hand 
holding the rifle being the result.

The designer of that action gave the maker a good, safe design.  But when 
it went into production, the tap was changed from a bottoming tap to the 
usual tapered nose tap, and the threads on the breech plug were rebated 
because of the tap change "to ease manufacturing".

But that left the front of the breech plug unsupported by the missing 3 
threads.  At 50kpsi, the barrel stretches a micron or 2, the breech plug 
also compresses, so that metal to metal contact for a seal at the front of 
the breech plug becomes a gap, and full gas pressure is allowed into the 
gap in front of the threaded region.  Then to paraphrase the concrete 
question, it is not will it crack, but when.  That is precisely why most 
modern BP rifles carry a huge red headline at the top of every page of the 
owners manual that smokeless powders are absolutely verboten.  But every 
generation it seems has its quota of idiots that can rise high enough up 
the food chain to make a decision that gets his fellow man injured or 
killed. :(

For us in this side of the pond, that wall plate screw is #6-32 and very 
sloppily made.  If I need a screw that size, I can easily buy them far 
better made at Tractor Supply.  I would have hoped that Bugatti called for 
a higher quality of screw. ;-)

Cheers, Gene
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