On Thursday 31 October 2013 00:11:32 Jon Elson did opine:

> Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Yeah, but we're still stuck with DIPS in .1" widths. But then we
> > invented them 50 years ago. :)
> 
> Except for a quick wire-wrap converter for something, I haven't used
> DIPs in years.  SOIC is .050" (half DIP lead pitch) and there is stuff
> at .635mm (.025" or quarter DIP pitch) but all of electronics is moving
> toward hard metric dimensions.

But 75% of mine is one offs, for me, so I tend to use what is available at 
the shack since I am 100 to 200 miles from a real electronics supply house.  

Old habits die hard. The other 25% is probably a concept board for a 30 yo 
legacy computer & the board designer isn't normally me, but somebody 
sending me a set of eagle files from the free version with a "can you make 
2 or 3 of these?" request.

Footprint changers because the older one time proms are now gone into the 
sands of time and are now 5x faster eproms with 4 to 10 more pins, that 
sort of stuff.  If its simple, the new chip sits not more than .2" from the 
old one, but a socket and 600 mil dip chip taller.  I am sure some of this 
could be done in tsop's but the footprint translations would use more real 
estate, no net savings except maybe in power, and 99.9% of this is 5 volt 
logic anyway.

> I just left my pick and place machine in metric, and do everything for
> it in mm units.  Fortunately, my electronic CAD system will make data
> for either units easily.  Funny, though, my PC board house wants data
> in inch units, but the boards are made in China!  No doubt they convert
> everything to mm before sending data to the Chinese fab.

Chuckle.  ok as long as they don't do a mars lander on the inch stuffs. ;-)
 
> Jon


Cheers Jon, Gene
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