On 2/21/2014 12:01 PM, dave wrote:
> On Wed, 2014-02-19 at 21:26 +0000, Steve Blackmore wrote:
>> On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 20:59:08 -0500, you wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all; may be off topic, but am wondering about converting my Centec 2B
>>> mill to CNC. X,Y axes are relatively easy; Z is difficult.
>>>
>>> Is there any real need to convert the Z axis, assuming that the weight of
>>> the table will keep the backlash to a minimum, or am I way off base here?
>>>
>>> Thanks for any advice from those who may have gone down this path before
>>> me;
>> Hi John - I had a Centec 2B with powerfeed and lots of horizontal
>> tooling. The important bits were tatty looking but in very good
>> condition under the grime. The X axis screw/nut design was pretty
>> appalling though. Getting the adjustment just right so it didn't jump
>> out of drive on reverse was a work of art. The table was heavy to raise
>> with lots of backlash in the bevel gears. I had the geared vertical head
>> too - that was very nice and had hardly been used. Some idiot had filled
>> the oil reservoir with grease and I had to strip it to clean. Getting
>> the bearing pre load correct after was difficult and I had to make a few
>> tools to do it. Fortunately the very expensive bearings were undamaged
>> and after fitting a new bottom oil seal it was fine. Guessing, I would
>> say that it leaked oil and to fix that they substituted grease!
>>
>> Although a very usable manual mill, I wouldn't attempt to CNC one. Not
>> an easy conversion. More importantly they are a bit "cult" over here and
>> fetch premium prices. I did renovate mine fully and repaint it before
>> selling it on and I made a hefty profit - you could buy a working second
>> hand Boss Bridgeport for what I got for mine!
>>
>> There are some details here.
>>
>> http://www.pilotltd.net/centec_2b_mill.htm
>>
>> please ignore rest of site - so out of date :)
>>
>> Steve Blackmore
>> --
> Some years ago I put a servo on the W axis of my knee mill to
> substitute for a driven Z. At a geared half HP it was underpowered.
> I now have cobbled together a Z drive that is tight and repeatable.
> If I really wanted to fuss with it I would re-implement the W to set
> tool length, that way I would always have the full travel of the Z.
> At this point the Z has both a glass scale and an encoder just for
> confirmation and the W lives with a glass scale that has a display but
> no servo loop.
> Probably more than you waned to know.
>
> Dave

Dave,

Was your knee counterbalanced - for example:  a Bridgeport Series 2 - or 
not?

Dave

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