On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 12:16 -0500, Dave Cole wrote:
> On 2/21/2014 12:01 PM, dave wrote:
> > On Wed, 2014-02-19 at 21:26 +0000, Steve Blackmore wrote:
> >> On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 20:59:08 -0500, you wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi all; may be off topic, but am wondering about converting my Centec 2B
> >>> mill to CNC. X,Y axes are relatively easy; Z is difficult.
> >>>
> >>> Is there any real need to convert the Z axis, assuming that the weight of
> >>> the table will keep the backlash to a minimum, or am I way off base here?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for any advice from those who may have gone down this path before
> >>> me;
> >> Hi John - I had a Centec 2B with powerfeed and lots of horizontal
> >> tooling. The important bits were tatty looking but in very good
> >> condition under the grime. The X axis screw/nut design was pretty
> >> appalling though. Getting the adjustment just right so it didn't jump
> >> out of drive on reverse was a work of art. The table was heavy to raise
> >> with lots of backlash in the bevel gears. I had the geared vertical head
> >> too - that was very nice and had hardly been used. Some idiot had filled
> >> the oil reservoir with grease and I had to strip it to clean. Getting
> >> the bearing pre load correct after was difficult and I had to make a few
> >> tools to do it. Fortunately the very expensive bearings were undamaged
> >> and after fitting a new bottom oil seal it was fine. Guessing, I would
> >> say that it leaked oil and to fix that they substituted grease!
> >>
> >> Although a very usable manual mill, I wouldn't attempt to CNC one. Not
> >> an easy conversion. More importantly they are a bit "cult" over here and
> >> fetch premium prices. I did renovate mine fully and repaint it before
> >> selling it on and I made a hefty profit - you could buy a working second
> >> hand Boss Bridgeport for what I got for mine!
> >>
> >> There are some details here.
> >>
> >> http://www.pilotltd.net/centec_2b_mill.htm
> >>
> >> please ignore rest of site - so out of date :)
> >>
> >> Steve Blackmore
> >> --
> > Some years ago I put a servo on the W axis of my knee mill to
> > substitute for a driven Z. At a geared half HP it was underpowered.
> > I now have cobbled together a Z drive that is tight and repeatable.
> > If I really wanted to fuss with it I would re-implement the W to set
> > tool length, that way I would always have the full travel of the Z.
> > At this point the Z has both a glass scale and an encoder just for
> > confirmation and the W lives with a glass scale that has a display but
> > no servo loop.
> > Probably more than you waned to know.
> >
> > Dave
> 
> Dave,
> 
> Was your knee counterbalanced - for example:  a Bridgeport Series 2 - or 
> not?
> 
> Dave
No. Just brute force. 
Cinci contourmaster ... tracermill. 

Dave
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