Erik,
28 hours of language lessons should be plenty to order and eat 
Weißwürste in a Munich Bierkeller. Even kids under the age of one can 
speak Bavarian hereabouts. Earnestly: Danish is closer to English than 
Bavarian, I admit. But I did have little problems in Denmark reading 
things, more understanding spoken language. There is a rumor that all 
the languages are hard to understand which are used to scare and drive 
cows (e.g., besides Bavarian, also Netherlands, Danish, Schwyzerdütsch, 
Texan etc.)

By the way: The tribes of the Saxons originally settled near the coast 
of the North Sea, around the Elbe river, partly in what is now 
Netherlands, partly what is now Niedersachsen (Lower Saxony). When they 
first arrived there, the sea retracted half a mile, and now it comes 
back every twelve hours to look if they are still there. Today's state 
of Saxony, part of the Federal Republic of Germany, has nothing in 
common with them except for the name, a consequence of feudal marriages. 
The name has to do with the indogermanic sax meaning a piece of rock 
(saxum in Latin), especially a stone knife, which shows how old this 
name must be. Later on, it signified a short, one bladed sword. In 
nordic langages it still exists a scissors, sax or saks. The Romans used 
it as a name for all kinds of pirates they encountered.

Once you know the way how the languages have changed in the ages, their 
"construction laws",  it's easier to learn a related language - that's 
why I have difficulties with Chinese.

Peter

Am 18.04.2014 17:06, schrieb Erik Christiansen:
> On 18.04.14 13:26, Peter Blodow wrote:
>> To be honest, translating into Bavarian would be even easier
>> sometimes as Bavarian often has a concise way to express things most
>> like English has (yes, Michael, Austrian and especially Tyrolian is
>> linguistically a branch of Bavarian). The reason, as I see it, is that
>> English and Bavarian have close common roots in Midle High German from
>> which they are descendants, as opposed to today's High German which was
>> composed rather artificlally, beginnig about matirn Luther's time.
> Ah, I remember spending 10 weeks in München, after 28 hrs of German
> lessons. Managed to converse in Hochdeutsch all of the last evening
> without resorting to English, but Bayerisch pronunciation left me at the
> starting post. If you did use that to shorten the translations, all the
> Germans from north of the Weißwurstäquator would have just as much
> trouble, wouldn't they?
>
> Not knowing any Middle High German, I tend to notice the similarities
> between the Danish Sønderjysk dialect and English, confirmed by reading
> that "Saxon" doesn't come from Sachsen, but further north, around
> Schleswig.
>
> Once you start looking, there's commonality all over the place, though
> often with a bit of vowel bending, and sometimes a systematic consonant
> softening which initially camouflages the strong connection.
>
> Erik
>


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