On Monday 10 August 2015 19:38:28 David Bagby wrote:

> Hi,
> I'm planning a mill conversion to LCNC and I'd like it to be able to
> do rigid tapping.
>
Description of mill, particularly its spindle & drive?

> I figure that this will require an encoder or equivalent) on the
> spindle. I won't be able to to easily attach a common encoder disc to
> the spindle, so I will probably have to create an encoder (which
> appears easier than doing a remote encoder driven via a belt etc).

That is what I did on this GO704, but I had to put my mind back in maker 
mode to do it.

> I've looked but not found a spec for the required encoder resolution.
> Does anyone have advice as to min spindle encoder resolution (ppr)
> required? Has anyone gotten by with 8 or 12 pulses (32 or 48
> quadrature) ?
>
> Dave

I have not tried that low, but I'd think, based on some that claim to 
have made it work with 1 PPR, that a suitably stiff controller that will 
not allow more than a few percent of speed variation with the load 
coming on when the tap starts to cut, it may be possible. I have not yet 
checked out this function on my conversion in progress GO704 though. 
With a 67 slot, 268 quadrature edges per rev, I can set Pgain in the 
spindle PID as high as 500.  But that upsets the driver on a fast 
slowdown, so its currently set for 150. Stopped to 2600 is substantially 
under 1 second in high gear.

So the question yet to be answered, is how big a tap can this stock 1HP 
motor, in low gear, turn?  My lathe has a 50 slot wheel on it, 200 
quadrature edges per rev, and within the horsepower limits set by a 
plastic driveline, can run an 8-32 straight into brass, and can peck, a 
half turn a peck, up to 1/4" SAE tap in steel.  Better driveline parts 
should expand that to at least a 1/2-SAE tap.

Sometime these question can be something like "how long is a piece of 
string?  We won't know till we build it & break the weakest part 2 or 3 
times.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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