On Tuesday 18 August 2015 13:37:34 John Kasunich wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 18, 2015, at 12:53 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Tuesday 18 August 2015 12:32:30 Ken Strauss wrote:
> > > I haven't closely followed this thread but what is wrong with the
> > > traditional method of sweeping a DTI attached to the end of an
> > > L-shaped rod secured in the spindle? Simple, time tested and very
> > > accurate.
> >
> > The table is currently occupied by a large holding jig I don't want
> > to move without first installing some keys on the ends of it to
> > re-align it with the table when I put it back on later.
> >
> > I wouldn't trust the jigs top plane for absolute square and flat as
> > its been a year since I made it.  It was machined flat, to that toy
> > mills version of flat then, but that 2" thick block of white ash has
> > now had another year to dry since. It was 10+ years out of the
> > weather seasoned then & should be fairly stable.
> >
> > I should reflatten the area where the boards get clamped to it, with
> > a fresh 2 flute upspiral SC mill, taking off perhaps 10 thou.
>
> Yes, you should :-)

I took a nominal .005'" cut, no missed spots so I quit.

> Since Z won't be used when you flatten that area, any Z errors won't
> matter.  The newly flattened area will be by definition parallel to
> the XY plane of the machine.  Which makes it the perfect spot to use
> when tramming the spindle perpendicular, using the traditional bent
> rod as an indicator holder.
>
> > But this
> > error looks like 5 thou or so just in the 0.760" thickness of the
> > board, so a jig level error would have to be truly huge to make that
> > big a difference.
>
> It sounding like you probably do have head tilt.  The columns of those
> chinese machines are rarely perfectly plumb, but they are also rarely
> if ever off that much.

I measured the fat part at the bottom of the extended quill housing and 
found it was less than a thou diff between the bottom dia and several 
places on up that "cylinder", about 2" high, so I scanned that and found 
under a thou on the indicator.  Front, back, or either side.  Thats s/b 
good enough for the girls I go with. :)

> In your shoes, I would flatten the board clamping area of your
> fixture, then adjust the head tilt with a spindle mounted indicator
> sweeping the largest practical circle on the newly flattened area. 
> Having done those two steps I bet you'll get nice joints on your
> project.

Not, so the next thing is a fresh SC bit, and reduce the depth of cut and 
speed of table to reduce bit flexure.  The only thing left has to be bit 
deflection under that heavy a side load. This is all climb cutting so 
any deflection would add when the pieces are turned around to mate the 
joints.

It could even disappear with a fresh SC tool.  OTOH, I might be the only 
one with that critical an eye.  I just scanned one such pair of joints, 
so in 5 minutes or so, it will be "test-cut.jpg" in the 
Mill-stf/pix-scans page at the address in the sig.  Cut at a DOC of 
around .225", 3 passes and a final to cut the thin remaining web at the 
bottom, and table speed of 50 ipm.

It is there now I believe. I can see it.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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