Gentlemen,
my old little Steinel vertical mill, older than the Black Forest, has a 
MT3 (MK3 in German). Above this, the bore is drilled hollow 14 mm all 
the way through to the top of the machine. The collet holder (1 - 20mm) 
that came with it has M12 inside threads at the end and can be fastened 
by a 12 mm pulling bar, if necessary. I made all my other tool holders 
the same way.

An almost new large milling head that was given to me because it was 
said to rattle and to be instable. I decided that a MT3 holder was way 
too thin and too long for such a big head. So I figured out the outside 
taper angle at the lower end of the quill, some 60 mm thick, and turned 
a plate shaped holder fitting over the outside of the quill. It will be 
pulled up by a long bar just the same. You should see the old maid 
making chips with a big 8 blade cutting head in alu at high speed! 
Furthermore, this construction is rather short and gives me more height 
between the tool and the table. Consider unconventional methods, too.

Peter



> On 30 October 2015 at 03:09, Jon Elson <el...@pico-systems.com> wrote:
>
>> MT3 is a "self holding taper".  So, if a clean, burr-free
>> holder is driven into a clean, burr-free socket, it should
>> resist normal machining forces with NO drawbar, vacuum or
>> other tricks.
> Yes, for axial loading such as drilling. There is no doubt that they
> work perfectly for this in millions of lathe tailstocks and drill
> presses.
>
>


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