On 10/30/2015 07:56 AM, andy pugh wrote:
> On 30 October 2015 at 03:09, Jon Elson <el...@pico-systems.com> wrote:
>
>> MT3 is a "self holding taper".  So, if a clean, burr-free
>> holder is driven into a clean, burr-free socket, it should
>> resist normal machining forces with NO drawbar, vacuum or
>> other tricks.
> Yes, for axial loading such as drilling. There is no doubt that they
> work perfectly for this in millions of lathe tailstocks and drill
> presses.
>
> But I think asking one to work for milling (unless you always make
> sure you do a nice hard plunge cut at the beginning) sounds like one
> of those things that will be perfectly OK most of the time, but then
> won't be.
>
Every Morse taper milling machine I have seen has a draw bar or a keeper 
key to hold the arbor.
My HBM has a #5 MT and will loose the tool holder if I do not put in the 
keeper.

Ed.


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