On Friday 30 October 2015 11:22:42 John Kasunich wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015, at 10:33 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Friday 30 October 2015 10:20:26 John Kasunich wrote:
> > > On Thursday 29 October 2015 11:28:30 Bruce Layne wrote:
> > >
> >>> $16 each in quantities of ten
> >>> www.ebay.com/itm/161733955633
> >>
> >> That's either a good price or it isn't.
> >
> > It is, compared to the Tormach version at 2x that.
> >
> >> In the case of this particular seller, you get your $60 worth.  I
> >> bought the exact same article from the same seller.  He shipped
> >> them DHL and they arrived from across the ocean in 3 days.
> >
> > The fleabay adv doesn't say a thing about that fast a delivery, just
> > vague promises of sometime in the 2nd or 3rd week of November.
>
> Yeah, that is the default for China.  And keep in mind, nothing is
> guaranteed.  Maybe I got lucky.  Many of these China sellers
> (including this one, for smaller items) use a very inexpensive
> "e-packet" shipping process that goes thru China Post and then
> the US Postal Service.  That does take a while.  It might be that
> the 10-pack of toolholders is too big for e-packet.
>
> A google later.... yep, e-packet is limited to 4.4 lbs.
> http://www.ecommercebytes.com/cab/abn/y11/m08/i31/s02
> That is how so many china sellers can offer free shipping on
> small items....
>
> > I'll get the collets from LMS on super Tuesday if history is any
> > indicator. Next week for these would sure be the icing on the cake.
> > And worth the $60 bucks. ;-)
>
> Do you actually need (or want) ten?

Ten of the TTS adapters?  Thats a bit like Orville and his popcorn, the 
bowl is forever one handfull less than what you wanted  when its been 
emptied. :)

That will give me 4 each of 1/8", 1/4" and 3/8".  No clue what I'll ever 
do with 4 each .375" collets though, router bits jump from 1/4" to 1/2".  
If I ever need the 1/2", I've an R-8 for that.

Just for S & G, I took that big fugly half a pound of satin finished 
metal gear shift knob off, squirreled the detent parts into a spare 
collet box & put the knob back on.  Putting it in low range, very easily 
done now, and with the drawbar bolt held by its wrench, and an estimated 
15 degree run till the wrench hit the motor housing and stopped, a 20 
rpm fwd command was more than enough to drop the TTS tool into my hand.  
Setting the spindle into reverse & holding the TTS adapter in, it 
trapped my hand between the wrench and the motor houseing, and is 
probably tighter now than I have ever put the wrench to it by hand.  I 
wasn't injured, but did have to hit the stop button to get my hand, and 
the wrench free again.

The question of "does the spindle motor have the huevos to do it?, seems 
to be  answered in the affirmative, rather loudly.

So next is to make an about 5 port wheel & figure out a ratcheting 
mechanism to turn it, probably involving a 2nd windshield wiper motor.

Home will be easy, rig the home switch to bridge the wipers motors 
parking switch with a small enough R to keep it going until the home 
switch opens.  Call that Pocket 0.  Then to find the pocket needed, bang 
that resistor across the home switch with another relay, and count the 
current pulses as its park switch goes by, stopping it when the correct 
number of counts has arrived.

  Followed by a fairly long wheelbased vertical axle to swing it into, 
and back out of position.  Possibly also run by a wiper motor.

And the code to bang the motor, and shift the gears.  Sounds doable to 
me. ;-)

But, I could well have to pester you kind folks about interfacing 
questions too, since this is dirt I've not played in before...

> If you get two or three people who want two or three holders each
> this might be an opportunity for someone to buy the 10-pack and
> split it up.
>
> If you only need two or three for this project I could probably ship
> you a couple of mine.  I don't need all 10 right now.  But I will want
> them eventually, so it would be a loan, not a sale.

Thanks for the offer John, but sure as heck, I'd forget where I got them 
by the time you'd want them back.  At my age, short term memory is, to 
be kind, poor. So I'd druther not go down that path if I can help it.  
In the meantime, I'll survive.  But I am NOT turning on a microphone in 
the shop either. :)  Some of what has been said out there is best not 
recorded.

>   John Kasunich
>   jmkasun...@fastmail.fm
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Cheers, Gene Heskett
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