On Monday 04 April 2016 09:37:08 Nicklas Karlsson wrote:

> > Maybe. OTOH, I can probably knock up something in eagle or geda/pcb,
> > and carve it on my machine by the time UPS could make a drop here. 
> > Those pictured boards Farnell shows me are quite simple, and adding
> > another thru-hole for the supply bypassing those chips ought to have
> > would be easy enough.  If I have a problem I might consider it, but
> > this VFD is RS-232, if that option is plugged in. I didn't find it
> > when I had it apart  OTOH, somebody, Mesa or Pico, maybe PMDX really
> > ought to knock up something like that so we'd have a ready-made
> > plug-n-play solution we could buy at a reasonable price.
> >
> > Potential product suggestion guys.
>
> You need VFD?
>
Potentially. I am considering buying a Sable for PCB work, and I am NOT 
impressed with the optional belt driven spindle they can supply. The 
rest of the machine looks as if it can do .001" accuracy as the Sable 
gantry is part of the machine frame and does not move except the spindle 
carrier sideways for what I'd call Y.  The table moves under the 
stationary gantry instead, on what for its size are quite substantial 
25mm rods & bearings.  If the gantry can support this motor, then its 
24k revs should allow a huge improvement in production speed.

But I have some other things I need to get out of the way to make room 
for the Sable.

Now, I am contemplating, because the Z is so much slower than the XY on 
this G0704/BF20, replaceing the3.5 amp 1600 oz/in motor and ma860 driver 
with its matching 60 volt switching psu, with this:

<http://www.ebay.com/itm/US-Ship-1-Axis-CNC-Kit-1841oz-in-Nema-34-Stepper-Motor-Driver-CNC-Mill-Router-/331600637974?_trksid=p2141725.m3641.l6368>

which it seems ought to triple the Z speed, but the 110 volt max dc 
supply, which I'd expect I'd better hold to about 100 volts, or if a 
stepdown tranny in the AC, 70 volts, and I have nothing to do that with 
at that power level.  In AC that would be a 57 volt buck at nominally 8 
amps=a 500 watt rated buck transformer. Hens teeth category in that 
fleabay hasn't such a critter that I can find. And switchers seem to top 
out at about 72 volts & not quite enough amps.

In other words, I haven't anything that could power it correctly.  And 
ebay's search  engine has no damned concept of what the word "volt" 
means.  No association with the 100 in front of it. The only tranny I 
have in that power category or above, is a toroid, 250/125 volt 
autoformer with at least a 5kw rating, a foot in diameter and 6" thick 
that I can't move it without a 2 wheeler, at least 90 lbs bare. I had 
visions of a better load balance on my house by running the mill off a 
252 volt two pole breaker.  But to be NEC legal I'd need a steel 
houseing box but haven't stumbled over one of them critters of a 
suitable size used yet.  Sad, but its the story of my life it seems.

What we need, is the MA860H in a MA8130H so it could be powered with a 
straight 127 volt line connection.  We may get it eventually, but not on 
my watch I suspect.  Ideally, 2 of the Pico pwm servo amps with special 
quadrature drivers could do it, but the driver would need to be pretty 
special, doing the pwm and dir with the pwm duration mapped to the 
microstepping needed.  They can do 20 amps on a 160 volt supply.  But 
here we go again, the beggar is still looking for the free horse to 
ride, so the money doesn't get spent. :(

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
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