On 08/02/2016 01:15 PM, John Kasunich wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016, at 01:09 PM, Mark wrote:
>> On 08/02/2016 12:39 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> On Tuesday 02 August 2016 10:46:03 Mark wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Silly Q: Going online to the metals pedlars, C360 seems to be what
>>>>> 90% of the bar stock offered is.  But regardless of the alloy, its
>>>>> all stated as not being heat treatable. Since extruded brass is
>>>>> called half-hard, or HO2, it can be played with in the oven (if its
>>>>> hot enough), but always to soften.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are they simply trying to head off the idiot that thinks ferrous and
>>>>> wonders why his stock is dead soft after he heat treated it like
>>>>> steel?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers, Gene Heskett
>>>> Gene,
>>>>
>>>> You can't "heat treat" brass/bronze/copper etc (non-ferrous) to
>>>> harden. You can only anneal those metals.  They do, however, work
>>>> harden, which annealing takes away.
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>> I know that, Mark.  For many decades. :)
>>>
>>> Cheers, Gene Heskett
>> Perhaps I'm not understanding your earlier questions then about heat
>> treating?
>>
>>
>> Mark
> I think Gene is questioning the suppliers who list brass as "not heat 
> treatable".
>
> He's right - annealing is a treatment that involves heat, so yes, brass can 
> be heat-treated.
>
> But since 99% of people think of "heat treating" and "hardening" as the same 
> thing,
> the vendors are covering themselves.  You can't harden brass by heat treating.
> Why don't they say that?  Who knows?  Who cares....
>
>
>
>    John Kasunich
>    [email protected]

Gotcha.  I wasn't quite getting at what Gene was asking.  ;-)

Mark

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