On Tuesday 28 February 2017 01:40:21 Erik Christiansen wrote:

> On 28.02.17 00:13, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Plus values in the 0 to 7 range behave as expected.  updown counts
> > of -1 to -7 do not, but do give unique address outputs of 15 to 9 in
> > nibble values, so there is no conflict at any point in the -7 to 7
> > range.
>
> The values: 15 to 9 for -1 to -7 are as expected here, Gene. That's
> 2's-complement representation of a negative number, straight out of
> the book.

But its a book I never studied up on. My work in electronics all my life 
was only concerned that it worked. And that, with the exception of a 
defective z-80 I tried to write code on in about 1981, it was one line, 
or bit at a time. I have only about 4 months of high school freshman for 
official education. Digital electronics in everyday stuff was a decade 
or more into the future then.

Back to the future, eg today..

This isn't a problem as I put the negative values in ascending value into 
the descending address starting at 1111 if useing a mux16.  But after 
looking at that on screen, I think a mux8 could handle it, counting from 
0 to 5 (could be expanded to 7 but thats awful fast) only, and use the 
direction (obtained from velocity) bit to reverse the starting 
reference.  That way we aren't hunting for the center position. Just 
turn right for more speed, and left for less, and overshooting isn't 
possible. By dealing only with 0 and positive values in the updown, 
displaying it in pyvcp gets a lot easier too.

> OK, it could have been 1's-complement, i.e. one less at each 
> value, but that's a less used representation, though easier to
> generate. Nibble-wise, subtract 7 from 16 and you have 9, and that's
> what you're seeing. (I'm a little bit puzzled over what else could be
> expected.)

Not having this 2's complement in my basic math education, I had to set 
it up and experiment to find out. With this list as amused witnesses. :)
>
> I can visualise the jogging pulses being counted up/down, depending on
> which jogwheel phase comes first (i.e. CW or CCW), but that 1/2/5
> scaling needs to always generates a positive mux address, I figure.

We are in violent agreement I believe Erik. Using the direction to do a 
scale -1 on the data generator that feeds the mux8's inputs seems 
simpler to do too.

The biggest problem will be getting all the conversions from u32 to 
floats and back, at the right place in the processing path.

We, for this, need a batch of modules that deal with s or u 32's natively 
since this is all "integer" math, and I'm stuck with floats for much of 
it. Floats are a lot slower, and I may see if, on the pi at least, 
setting up another slower thread running at 100Hz as a way of unloading 
some cpu cycles. The ability to setup an if/then/else/end thing right in 
the addf's could sure ease the cpu's task considerably in this case. 
Call it jog-thread in the addf's.  Given that we are dealing with human 
fingers, 100Hz ought to be fast enough for this.

There are very few potential Thell Reed Jr's on this planet. Probably 
long since retired from the marines now, but circa 1962 he made a 13 
frame long movie at Camp Pendleton. Starting with an empty coke can on 
the back of each outstretched hand, he drew two army 45's, and put 13 
holes in each can before they hit the dirt. They were not converted to 
full auto, he was pulling the triggers in time with the slides going 
back into battery. Not well shown in those 13 frames was a mattress on 
the ground behind him because 26 rounds in 1/2 second knocked him back 
on his butt. The funny part was that he was then 17, having lied about 
his age to get into the Marines when he was 16. One could say he had 
the "knack".

100Hz is still faster than that...  Next experiment...

> Erik
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