On Tuesday 15 August 2017 05:18:32 Les Newell wrote:

> My LCR meter has an ESR function though I seldom use it. To be honest
> I mostly just use it's resistance range for finding short circuits on
> boards. It has a resolution of 0.1milliohms, not that you need quite
> that resolution for finding shorts. It has fantastic resolution but
> so-so accuracy.
>
> Les

Well, in that event, a 4 wire setup, and gold plated probes, can get you 
to the short pretty fast. :)  I have an old, old, Fluke probably closer 
to 60 yo than 50, very accurate, but a pain in the butt to use as its 
relays to do a successive approximation bridge balance. It displays the 
answer on nixie tubes for about a second, then starts a hunt from 
scratch again, and all that time its hunting, the nixie tubes are 
displaying the test values. With all the relays clanking along its about 
30 seconds to a new, 5 digit reading thats displayed for that 1 second. 
I've not actually used it in close to 30 years. But it can do a 4 wire 
resistance measurement. Fired up today, I'd let it sit and rattle the 
contacts to clean them for about a day, maybe longer. Or maybe not, the 
relays are C.P.Clares with mercury wetted contacts IIRC.  They ought to 
be good even at this late date. That leaves the psu and nixie tubes to 
have failed over time.

I don't even know where it is in the basement as we had a drainage system
and some wall re-enforcement's ($12k worth) put in about 2 years back and 
we've not put everything back where it was yet... They dug a small ditch 
in the concrete floor, all the way around, put in a small plastic liner 
that drains into a sump with an automatic pump into the french drains. 

About half a ton of concrete dust to vacuum off stuff as we pick it up 
out a midden heap in the middle of the floor. I haven't even pushed a 
wooden shelving unit about 20' long back against the wall because I want 
to put a layer of 2" styro on the walls for insulation.

But thats against the front wall, which now has a 4" I beam brace every 4 
feet as the wall was cracking, and they are ever so slowly straightening 
the wall, about 1/4" of in-bow was pushed back in the last year. They 
have a big bolt to hold x pounds of tension on the beams, supposed to be 
tightened with a torque wrench annually.

> On 14/08/2017 21:20, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > That LCR meter will probably not detect high ESR until its boils
> > your coffee bad.
> >
> > The 2 of the 10 dollar ones I bought were shipped Saturday night
> > late. It will be interesting to check it out, I have several years
> > experience with the Capacitor Wizard, it made it possible I could
> > keep about 18 Dvc-Pro machines running at the tv station.  Each one
> > had at least 500 of Panasonics own brand of capacitors in it, they
> > were smaller than anybody else micro versions, and a typical repair
> > was maybe 2 of the 14 to 18 boards in it, testing the caps and
> > replacing the shaky ones, per day.
> >
> > So it was often that the individual machine was on the bench for
> > several days.  Even with a 5x13" board in a Panavise frame, it was
> > by the end of the day, back breaking work just from sitting there
> > all bent over.  15 years later I still think thats the main reason I
> > retired at 66.75 yo, still less than a year from maximum SS at 67.5
> > in those days.
> >
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
>
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Cheers, Gene Heskett
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