On Sunday 05 August 2018 17:03:42 Ken Strauss wrote:

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gene Heskett [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2018 2:31 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Cutter compensation with mill turning
> >
> > On Sunday 05 August 2018 13:43:45 Ken Strauss wrote:
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Gene Heskett [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > > Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2018 12:57 PM
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Cutter compensation with mill turning
> > > >
> > > > On Sunday 05 August 2018 09:07:29 Ken Strauss wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Looking at the drawings for position 9, page 78 of 738, I too am
> > > > confused. Can we be enlightened? IMO there are only 8 usable
> > > > positions. Which in the practical world, none are 100% accurate
> > > > because no one sets up a tool with the full side of its cutting
> > > > edge inline with either axis. Thats just asking for and usually
> > > > getting a squeak/chatter and a broken insert.
> > >
> > > The I/J parameters on a G10 L1 allow the specification of the
> > > FRONTANGLE and BACKANGLE shown in the drawing. I'm guessing that
> > > 30-degrees is the default for these angles.
> >
> > Are these angles to be expressed as the angle from the chip
> > centerline, or in an absolute angle assuming 0 degrees is exactly
> > away from the operator? Little but very important details are not
> > adequately discussed, and that has discouraged my use of the tool
> > table.
>
> From the illustration at the very end of
> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ToolTable it appears that
> FRONTANGLE and BACKANGLE are measured from the centre line of the
> tool.
>
> > Lack of a tool changer has also discouraged it, but thats my fault.
> > Every design I have seen, and have been tempted to make, also wants
> > to impinge on the operating envelope in ways its hard to work
> > around. So 3 or so holders along the end of the table are out, as
> > are those I've seen along the back edge of the table. Neither are
> > practical from the standpoint of the uneven weight on the end of the
> > table.
>
> I would also like an ATC but have balked at Tormach's price for such.
> Tools for my size machine typically weigh far less than a pound each
> so I'm not particularly concerned about the uneven weight. However,
> not losing table space is critical. A changer with only four or five
> tool holders would suffice for most of my work. There are several
> simple designs such as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s11izziBkbs
> that seem to be a possibility.

Thats a sweet idea, but all holders would appear to be made to fit that 
custom spindle. So the whole thing would need at least a little red 
wagon full of rolls of SBA dollars. Good for a new design, sure, but 
would obsolete $2000+ dollars worth of tool holders I already have. The 
carousel could be made to fit the TTS holders easy enough, but what 
about a tool that doesn't fit a 3/4" r8?. Show stopper. Needs more 
thought to make it a bit more universal.
>
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