On Wednesday 17 April 2019 15:32:09 Ken Strauss wrote:

> The cheap load cells often use a HX711 for the amplifier and A/D.
> See
> https://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Interface-HX711-Balance-Module
>-With- Load-Ce/ if you're using an Arduino. If you want to roll your
> own interface code see
> https://www.mouser.com/ds/2/813/hx711_english-1022875.pdf
>
Thanks Ken, that is exactly what I needed.  Now all I  need to do is 
round up the bits and pieces.

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gene Heskett [mailto:ghesk...@shentel.net]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 10:01 AM
> > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Something to think about re the hack-a-day
> > tool changer
> >
> > On Wednesday 17 April 2019 07:12:53 andy pugh wrote:
> > > On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 06:57, Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > > Some more along the lines of finding out how much force I can
> > > > figure on as being available to tighten or loosen the collet
> > > > nut. I can get, for under a tenner, 4 ea 50Kg load cells and a
> > > > processor board that converts the very low level diffs of a
> > > > wheatstone bridge
> > >
> > > Why not set your torque wrench to the correct torque for your nuts
> > > and then see how far down the handle you have to be to trip the
> > > wrench?
> > >
> > > That tells you what radius of action you need to get the right
> > > torque.
> > >
> > > There is no question that your machine can produce the torque,
> > > given the classical "sufficiently long lever"
> >
> > And that is the final question as to whether or not the idea is
> > actually practical. It assuredly is not if the xy motors are so weak
> > it needs a carousel more then 18" in radius to the circle of sockets
> > just to tighten a tool well enough to dig off .010" of an alu chip
> > without slippage of tool in the collet.  Even that isn't going to be
> > practical but it does serve to outline exactly why the 3" radii
> > carousels we are seeing in the videos will turn out to be an obvious
> > disproof of concept. The videos of it going thru the motions on
> > hackaday would certainly have to suffer from the loose tools
> > syndrome if actually put to work on a usable thickness of alu stock,
> > say .03125" thick. Putting bigger motors on it would be one option,
> > but even 470 oz nema 23's, might not be enough, and most certainly
> > could/would bend the frame or bearing rods. I have the motors from
> > the broken HF I can move, and probably will as that would at least
> > double the power, but just haven't found the round tuit yet. Among
> > other things they have dampers on them. But I'll have to change the
> > A motor again, putting a 435oz on it. I already changed the 90 for a
> > 230, so a 435 can't fail to be even better at holding work. That
> > would leave the pair of 235's for XY, and would leave the longer Y
> > to be moved to Z duties.
> >
> > The 1600oz nema 34 supplied as Z motor in the kit for a G0704, which
> > was a too slow disaster on the G0704, often stalling at 29 ipm, but
> > was strong enough to stretch the bolts anchoring the nut carrier to
> > the z sled, causing those to need replacement quite early, but now
> > moves at 90 ipm with a 940oz motor that has not further damaged
> > those replacement bolts, would be a prime example of overkill.
> > However I reused that motor as Z drive on the Sheldon, where it has
> > no weight to lift, works well at 75 ipm on the Sheldon with the same
> > driver I took out of the G0704. I put in the $180 AC powered drive
> > to spin that 940oz on the GO704. Dead smooth and 20 db quieter. The
> > DM860H drive is a noisy drive, so noisy I had to install miniature
> > quarter round on the keyboard shelf edges to keep stuff on it,
> > including the keyboard and mouse. The 860 has very very poor step vs
> > amps in coils calibration, so there is no nice quiet all steps in
> > the microstep mapping regardless of the current setting. The thing
> > you notice most is that a /8 setting actually does 7 steps because
> > one of them is way too small.
> >
> > But thats not solving this measurement problem. Since this $7 kit,
> > needs an external clock, it seems like that could be done by siggen,
> > for a 500 baud baud rate, and a software uart could do the rest. But
> > the packet length is unk until I have such a kit in my hot little
> > hands. The fleabay adv's don't say.
> >
> > Thanks Andy.
> >
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> > --
> > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
> >  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> > -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
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> >
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Cheers, Gene Heskett
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 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
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