On Saturday 21 September 2019 01:42:05 John Dammeyer wrote:

> > >  Otherwise I'd probably sell the STMBLs.
> >
> > You would probably find a buyer for one, if you have seen the gitter
> > recently. The one that I blew up and sent to Jack has blown up
> > again.
>
> All three of mine work perfectly.  So far.  I'm not eager to let them
> go.  Part of still thinks that one day I'll have a breakthrough and
> actually be able to figure out how the code works.
>
> > And there's part of me that's being tugged in the direction of an
> > Ethernet
> >
> > > Smooth Stepper and MACH3 on WIN-10 with all the issues I'm having
> > > with
> >
> > the
> >
> > > MESA.
> >
> > You should do what is right for you. Nobody has any financial
> > interest in encouraging you to use LinuxCNC. I do wonder if this is
> > part of the reason that Mach does so well? There are folk making
> > money from that encouraging its use even for things it is not very
> > good at (like lathes)
>
> I don't think there's any financial interest in encouraging to use
> MACH3 itself and it's a dead product to a certain extent although
> there are people using it with WIN-10.  I haven't looked at MACH4
> because I don't like "call home software for license permission".
>
Thats a non-starter. Although I'll have to admit I do own a win10 home 
edition box, as its the only working interface for a VNA I bought. Draws 
smith charts of an AM broadcast tower in vitually real time.

> There is on both sides interest in selling BoBs and either USB or
> Ethernet to BoB implementations.  Look closely at what people are
> using for LinuxCNC and if it's not an older PC with a parallel port it
> seems the only other choice is a MESA board of some flavour.  And if
> you buy a MESA plug in card with 4 interface cards to make up your BoB
> then the support is probably great.

I've found support from all the vendors I have delt with has been more 
than adequate. I used a PMDX-106 for spindle control with the hf mill 
for years, so I'm sorry to see the negative comments made recently.

> For example, look at the chastising I received from the STMBL
> designers because I wanted step/dir support rather than LinuxCNC based
> MESA smart serial.  That there was a large market on the Windows/Mach
> side was considered imaterial.  Had to bite my tongue after that
> series of comments.
>
> So far it seems if you buy a few hundred dollars worth of MESA I/O to
> install into a PC that runs LinuxCNC you will have very little trouble
> getting LinuxCNC running.    But step outside that box...

Like to a pi or bbb. Because the odroid used in the buildbot was so 
failure prone probably from overheating, me and my pi3 have been thrown 
under the buss. But I am determined to make the rpi-4b work just because 
its video is 40x faster. I've even considered donating a suitable psu, a 
pi4 and one of heat sink kits with builtin fans for the buildbot. With 
adequate cooling and psu's, my uptimes with the pi3 have been from power 
bump to power bump. I've one odroid-C2, never did get it past the UEFI, 
bricked it trying.

But it appears that wayland is makeing any version of linuxcnc 
unbuildable, yet I'm not seeing any comments about it or progress being 
made. Python 2 support runs out the first of the year, but I'm not 
seeing any moves to use python-3.7 as part of any new release.

So what are the plans just on those 2 fronts? And what about sphinx?, its 
disappeared after wheezy, so we can't build up to date linixcnc docs as 
pdf's.

> I haven't given up yet.  Just rather discouraged at the difficulty in
> doing something that is checkbox based on Windows MACH3 and requires
> begging the supplier for a change.
>
> John
>
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