Gene,

Knowing your propensity for eBay/Amazon buyer's remorse, it would be a
good idea to warn you about the cheap speaker wire.  Most of it is
stranded copper plated aluminum wire.  The sellers don't exactly go out
of their way to prominently advertise that it's aluminum cable.  Buyer
beware.

It's crazy how expensive wire has become.  Copper may not be a precious
metal, but it's making a good go at semi-precious status.  I need 100
feet of 12/2 with ground to wire my sister's new walk in closet and I'm
not looking forward to seeing how much the price of Romex cable has
increased since my last purchase, which produced severe sticker shock. 
Copper cable would have been a much better investment than gold or
silver in the last ten years.





On 10/26/19 9:49 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Saturday 26 October 2019 19:56:59 Chris Albertson wrote:
>
>> "zip cord"?     Search for "speaker wire"    This come in all sizes
>> and in a few different colors., white, black/red and white
>>
>> I use  it for power and what not in prototypes but for "real" work I'd
>> spec the proper multiconductor cable.
>>
> Which, the way I work, adding this or that function until I have pretty 
> much explored what the machine can do, would waste a lot of multicore. 
> Besides, a bunch of 2 conductor or even individual wires in the cable 
> chain are generally more flexible than bigger multicore would be. I 
> purposely buy cable chain with double the estimated window size just so 
> I can snap it open and add another functions wires or hoses without 
> having to redesign for a whole new cable. This particular change will do 
> away with a small plastic hose taking 10 psi to the coolant bottle, 
> replacing it with some 18 gauge black and red zip, only marginally 
> stiffer than the small bore hose being pulled out. A pressure regulator 
> at the coke bottles intake vent will go away, which weighs a long pound, 
> in favor of a 2oz pump, a net loss in the "unsprung weight" the y motor 
> has to move. Overall, I think a net gain in both velocity and accel 
> settings for the y.  No change in z w/o a bigger motor, its pretty puny. 
> A motor I have, about a 235oz I'd estimate at 3x the torque of the oem 
> toy, but I've misslaid my round tuit.  If I ever find a good image to 
> put on it that isn't copyrighted, I'll make a couple dozen more, wiping 
> out that excuse. ;-)  But first, make this mister work... :)
>
>> On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 3:31 PM Gene Heskett <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>>> Greetings all;
>>>
>>>
>>> I went out to wire that pump up today, but discovered that nominally
>>> 1/3 roll of small zip cord I thought I had, seems to have obtained
>>> some growth hormone, grew legs and walked off.  Might not have been
>>> enough anyway.
>>>
>>> So who has the miniature zip cord at the best price on this side of
>>> the pond? I'd like a 50 or 100 foot spool.
> I wound up getting some 18 gauge from amazon, the next size down was 28 
> gauge. Even at .5 amps, that seemed a bit small. But by the time its 
> strung thru all the cable chain, estimated at 17-18 feet, I'd druther be 
> big enough than to find I've only 8 volts at the 12 volt motor. 
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett


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