On Wednesday 27 May 2020 20:10:44 Chris Albertson wrote:

> By total coincidence, I just made both.  I needed 30T, 40T, and 60T
> pulleys.   I tried printing them and they fail after a while.  The
> plastic simply will not hold the set screw then they slip on the
> shaft.  The big thing is if the motor gets warm it heats the plastic. 
> The solution has to print the pulley as the thin ring. My 30T puley
> has a 20mm hole.  Then use the lathe to make a 20mm OD bushing with
> two set screws 90 degrees apart. I make this with steel.  The
> pulley-ring is press fit to the steel bushing using 5 minute epoxy.  
> OK, you ask "How strong can plastic teeth be?" the answer seems to be
> "stronger than the rubber teeth on the belt."  The part of the pulley
> that needs to be strong is the hub and that is now steel. Making a
> center bored cylindrical bushing is a very easy job.   I made a few
> and this method turned out the simplest and best.   Make the ring
> really thin so as to make the bushing as big as you can.
>
> I just returned from riding my bike for a few hours and notice my
> NEMA23 mount plate is 80% finished.   I'm still testing if these can
> be made with plastic.  I think so if about 6mm thick   I'll know soon.
>  I have a test setup to check for flex in the plate.
>
> I'm working on a plan or "kit" to convert an HF mill to CNC using
> way-cheap plastic parts (< $20 material cost) and minimal machine
> work.   I'll publish the design files after it works.    I've had to
> redesign/remake some parts 3 or 4 times but it comes out more simple
> each iteration

I'd like to see if I could convert this 6040 into a printer, precisely so 
I could do something along those lines but in looking around for a 
printhead, it seems the drive is much lighter so smaller motors can move 
it faster, and never the twain shall meet. Trading a 3kg 24k spindle 
motor out for a printhead the might weigh 5oz is quite a change.  I 
could buy another printer, but where I'd have to set it up has no AC. 
And good results seem to be quite temp dependent.  So I get that stuff 
from fleabay, and wait, and wait, and wait.  Thats frustrating too.

So who makes the best printer for stuff like this, at an affordable 
price?

> On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 2:06 PM Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> 
wrote:
> > On Wednesday 27 May 2020 00:51:57 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 26 May 2020 19:45:10 Chris Albertson wrote:
> > > > On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 3:01 PM Gene Heskett
> > > > <ghesk...@shentel.net>
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > > Those closed loop motors and controllers have arrived, and I
> > > > > puzzled by a total lack of docs other than the u-step ratios
> > > > > printed on the cover. Thats covered by dip sw1-4, but its a 6
> > > > > pos switch, and 5 & 6 are in Chinese pictograms.
> > > >
> > > > I'm following this because, as said, I plan on doing the same.
> > > > However I always read the docs BEFORE buying, no docs, I don't
> > > > buy.
> > > >
> > > > Post a photo of the Chinese characaters,  I have someone here
> > > > fluent in Chinese.  Also you can try Chinese OCR and then apply
> > > > Google Translate.
> > > > http://www.i2ocr.com/free-online-chinese-traditional-ocr
> > >
> > > I found out what they do, one is a direction reverser, the other
> > > makes it open loop.  Suits me anyway. I'll get one of those
> > > supplies and one of these on the same table and play with a
> > > function generator tomorrow, claims to be good for 200 khz steps,
> > > and has divisors out the yang, so it ought to be a dropin except
> > > for the mounts and shaft sizes so I'll need to find some timing
> > > pulleys and belts. And a nema 23 mount since that 1600 oz/in on
> > > the Z now is a nema 34 mount. An see if there is room enough
> > > behind the apron for one of them, its 124mm long in which case
> > > I'll order another for the indexer and put both of these on the
> > > Sheldon.
> >
> > Shot down there, its around 4mm too long to clear the bed.
> >
> > As it runs, the 800 or 1000 divisor seems to be the smoothest,
> > either one getting to 2500+ revs, 800 stalling, 1000 dieing because
> > of slow opto's at about 220 kilohertz. Either way plenty of turn the
> > house around torque, so I'm suitably impressed.  Now I need a 10mm
> > belt pulley with 30 teeth and a motor mount for a nema 23.  The
> > trick is finding both on this side of the pond...
> >
> > Thanks All
> >
> > > That 8 lead nema 24 on the x is slow, stalls at
> > > about 30 ipm. even when set as 4 wire parallel and all the amps a
> > > 2m542 can do. Even then it runs cooler than steppers usually do.
> > > The x belt tensioner is drilled for a 23 and then the holes were
> > > moved enough for the 24.
> > >
> > > > My guess about the cable length mismatch is that the seller you
> > > > bought this from gathers parts and packages them and this motor
> > > > was made for a use case that did not include this controller.
> > >
> > > The motor and encoder look to be an integrated unit.  So I'll have
> > > to splice it, or pull the cover and see if its easily replaceable
> > > with a smallish 18 or 20 gauge line cable.  Lots of layup stuffing
> > > on this one to get to a matching cable jacket size, the wire gauge
> > > itself isn't impressive at all. At its peak of 4 amps a coil, that
> > > cable WILL heat. Not badly, but detectable.
> > >
> > > > When googling for the instruction, look for related controllers
> > > > as I'd bet the firmware was written to run on many different
> > > > sizes of controllers, not just the one you have.  Many of these
> > > > are Leadshine clones so look at Leadshine web site.
> > >
> > > Thanks Chris, stay well.
> > >
> > > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> >
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> > --
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Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
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 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
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