On Fri, 2020-09-04 at 15:39 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 04 September 2020 13:20:26 Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: > > > On Fri, 2020-09-04 at 10:02 -0700, Chris Albertson wrote: > > > On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 9:50 AM Mark Wendt <wendt.m...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 12:41 PM Chris Albertson > > > > <albertson.ch...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > wrote > > > > > > > > > ...So, to make LinuxCNC nearly universal, hide it inside a > > > > > product that > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > slick and easy to install and use. No one should have to look > > > > > at HAL > > > > > > > > files > > > > > > > > > or know it runs on Linux. They can learn, but if learning is > > > > > required it will always remain a niche product. > > > > > > > > Great stuff! So, when are you going to get started on this > > > > project? > > > > > > I wrote that to show why it will never happen. But also to make a > > > point that there does exist a pattern in the way complex niche > > > products become mainstream. Usually, another layer is built around > > > it. PCs were kind of rare until Windows covered over the DOS > > > command line. > > > > This is questionable. I used a PC with UNIX in 1984 and all our > > clients had UNIX. No graphics interface, only command line, databases > > and ad-hoc graphic programs. This was before Windows, we had UNIX and > > DOS in dual-boot on some PCs, UNIX on the servers. However the Apple > > Mac already had a graphics interface :-) > > > Our first experince with unix, was on an AT&T 3B2 CBS bought all the > affiliates as a message service. It was not a good experience because > the 3b2 was built like most Apples, the first layer of dust and cheap > sleeve bearing fans killed a fan and usually started a fire. I had a > halon extinguisher sitting next to it that got used a couple times. > Then CBS bought us all new systems running on a pc, running NT-3.5.1, > which had a built in timer in its housekeeping that deleted the > main .dll about every 2 years. I called Redmond and got called a pie rat > because I wanted a copy of that .dll. I washed my hands of anything > that looked like windows, somebody else could have that headache and > when I decided my amiga was on its last legs, and built a pc from parts > in '98, it got red hat 5.0 installed. My property has a bounty on > windows, and no windows I've ever been forced to buy has lasted more > than a week past the warranty. I have one win-10 box, a $330 hp thing > used as a display for drawing smith charts of an AM broadcast tower, > couldn't make the linux drivers work. IMNSHO Win-10 is a damned poor > substutute for Linux. But you ALL know that. :) > > Cheers, Gene Heskett
My first experience with unix was on my IBM PC1, with one 5 1/4 floppy and a 32MB IBM hard disk. the OS was Interactive Systems Unix and DOS 3.3 in dual-boot. But this was after playing/programming four years with my Commodore 64. I still have the C64 in a drawer with all the devices and floppies :-) Also I have conserved the DOS Turbo Pascal 3.0 compiler and also Turbo Prolog, Fortran 77 4.1 and Autocad 2.9 :-) _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
