Ha ha, oops, they're in the UK

On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 at 17:22, Roland Jollivet <roland.jolli...@gmail.com>
wrote:

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> Did you try PGM Reball     (saw them on an old video I have)
>
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> On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 at 14:38, Todd Zuercher <to...@pgrahamdunn.com> wrote:
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>> Yes, near the limit switch, outside of the normal travel area, I can not
>> measure any backlash.  That pretty much points the finger squarely at wear
>> on the screw as the main culprit.  I think I have figured out the "springy"
>> backlash uptake mystery.  It is simply the weight of the screw sagging down
>> and resting on the nut pushing the table to the center of the ball grooves
>> (remember the screw is more than 14ft long.)
>>
>> Anyone know of any good ball-screw refitters in the States?  I already
>> checked with one and they didn't want to touch it.
>>
>> Todd Zuercher
>> P. Graham Dunn Inc.
>> 630 Henry Street
>> Dalton, Ohio 44618
>> Phone:  (330)828-2105ext. 2031
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Stuart Stevenson <stus...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2021 11:12 PM
>> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Worn Ball Screw?
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>> Plus or minus .010 is an amazing amount. Also, you mentioned another area
>> on the screw you saw .001 lost motion. This leads to a screw problem.
>> I would do what Jon Elson says as this sounds strange but I would expect
>> to find screw wear. If it was nut wear the backlash in all areas of the
>> screw would be close to equal. Not knowing the drive train maybe there is a
>> gear train and one area of the gear train has worn teeth and where you
>> found almost no lost motion is where the gear train is the best.
>> Expect screw wear but hope for a gear train problem.
>> HTH
>> Stuart
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 5:15 PM Jon Elson <el...@pico-systems.com> wrote:
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>> > On 04/12/2021 09:48 AM, Todd Zuercher wrote:
>> > > Those here who have had to deal with a worn out ball screw.
>> > I'd dig into the works and examine everything.  It does NOT sound like
>> > simple wear.
>> > The rotating nut likely runs in a pair of either angular-contact
>> > bearings or tapered roller bearings.  There will be a preloading
>> > arrangement to constrain the nut.  Also, the screw is usually fixed at
>> > both ends.  If the clamp has gotten loose at one or both ends, it
>> > could allow some flex of the mount under load.  Attach a dial test
>> > indicator to the slide and read against the end of the screw, and
>> > watch for movement when you apply load.
>> >
>> > Some old ballnuts were actually TWO completely separate nuts that were
>> > preloaded against each other with Belleville washers.  It is possible
>> > some of the Bellevilles have cracked.
>> > Also, they often used dowel pins to align the two nuts rotationally.
>> > If one of the dowels has cracked, that could cause this kind of issue.
>> >
>> > Jon
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