On Tuesday 29 June 2021 13:09:08 John Dammeyer wrote:

> > From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com]
> >
> > On Tue, 29 Jun 2021 at 16:45, Mark Wendt <wendt.m...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
> > > Have there been any instances of any discrimination, bullying or
> > > other problems with people having issue with anyone of any sort on
> > > this list, forum, wiki or IRC?
> >
> > It's very hard to say. I see about half a dozen new subscribers
> > every day. About 20% go on to post a single question to the forum,
> > and then disappear. I like to think that in general that is because
> > they got the help they wanted (and no more :-) and saw no reason to
> > stick around. But it is possible that they felt unwelcome and left.
> >
> > The IRC serves a social function for many people, but the forum
> > really is just focussed on the topic at hand.
> >
> > --
> > atp
>
> Andy,
> Over the years I've often felt the general Linux community has been
> quite rude to new users.  I've seen people stay with MACH and Windows
> because of the perceived 'elitist' attitude of Linux users.
>
> Let me put out an example of what the CoC appears to support.
> ====================================================
> The question by a new user:
> I'd like to be able to add an encoder to my spindle.  How do I start?
>
> Acceptable response:
> It's in the documentation.  Read it before you bother us with
> questions.
>
> Unacceptable response because it's way too helpful and excessive:
> Linux, unlike MACH requires at least two sensors: one for a once per
> rev just like MACH that tells the system where the spindle is for
> synchronization and one that provides a number of pulses per
> revolution so LCNC can determine spindle speed.  This is more accurate
> for speed monitoring than just the single PPR. There's a bit more
> information here for you to start with.
> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/examples/spindle.html
> ====================================================
>
> Go through the archives and the number of 'experts' (based on posting
> numbers) who respond with "That's already been answered" with no
> additional information is quite high.
>
> I like to think of it this way.  If the questions were already
> answered and all one has to do is look through reference material then
> all we have to do is teach children to read and boot them out of
> school at about 10 years old.  After all, everything they need to know
> is already out there.  The questions have already been answered.  Just
> read the books!
>
Chuckle, carefull there John, except for the age, you are describing me, 
but I made it to about 14 before I came to the conclusion that school, 
under the then present recipe, was a waste of my time and went to fixing 
what was then a brand new thing called a tv.  Fall of'48 IIRC. Thats the 
main reason I still tend to shy away from higher math. My algebra 
teacher was far more interested it getting the pubescent girls all hot 
and bothered by spending his class time telling off-color stories. A 
small town father of one girl finally took his 12 gauge and invited him 
to leave town in the middle of the night. He rather wisely did. I had 
previously taken my objections to the Principle, because I did want to 
learn since I was by then rather heavily into the electronics of the 
day, but the blow back was all on me, I was the trouble-maker. I guess I 
still am, when I'm right. Now its about 70 years too late to modify 
that. ;o)

> So regardless of whether it's LCNC or some other technical forum,
> short 4 word answers are generally a larger waste of space than a long
> winded one.
>
> IMHO.  (oops.   4 letter acronym).
> SAAH.  (crap.  Another 4 letter acronym -- Small Attempt At Humour)
>
> John Dammeyer
>
>
>
>
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Cheers, Gene Heskett
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