On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 19:15 -0400, Bruce Layne wrote: > On 7/12/21 4:27 PM, Dave Cole wrote: > > The argument that no professional organizations or people will be > > attracted to a project without a COC is nonsense. > > LinuxCNC has succeeded brilliantly all of these years without a Code > of > Conduct, and I saw nothing that necessitated a CoC. It seems to > have > been externally mandated without cause.
LinuxCNC is a rare case in such, a blinkenlight in the darkness. See if that endures after the mess. > > > > On 7/12/21 5:12 PM, Les Newell wrote: > > ...the list admins have had the power to ban users for a very long > > time. You agreed to that when you signed up. They have of course > > used > > their fascist dictator powers to... maybe ban a few spammers. > > The Terms of Service were apparently sufficient to regulate behavior, > or > more likely, were not needed because everyone acted as an adult and > moderated their own behavior. Why add an unneeded Code of Conduct > to > the sufficient or unneeded Terms of Service? Nobody was being > banned > because everyone played nice... for decades. But that's not good > enough. Now we have an externally mandated Code of Conduct to > further > regulate self regulated civil behavior. > > > > The Code of Conduct is worse than a solution in search of a > problem. > It's now proven to be a divisive political tool that is a solution to > a > problem of its own creation. I've been a member of the LinuxCNC > community for over 15 years and have never seen such acrimony - > vicious > bickering, people leaving the community, others pulling their > contributions... and it all started as a result of the new Code of > Conduct. Given the strife it has caused, the only way to justify > the > Code of Conduct would be as a tool to divide the community along > previously irrelevant and unseen political lines, turn us against > each > other, and drive away anyone with a differing political opinion. > > I hate to see the divisive toxic politics that have recently > infested > the world now destroying the LinuxCNC community. Are we going to see > a > fork of LinuxCNC into a red team version and blue team version? > Ugh. > Why am I now being forced to endorse or oppose someone's political > views? I'm only here for the CNC. > > I previously suggested that an appropriate Code of Conduct would be, > "Y'all be cool." If that's not enough for the LinuxCNC community, > then > perhaps it could be amended to include, "Politics are divisive and > counterproductive to a technical open source community, so keep your > politics to yourself." > > I realize this isn't a democracy, but if it were, I'd cast my vote > for > deleting this deadly Code of Conduct before it completely tears this > community apart. It's caused nothing but trouble. I miss the > peaceful > days before the Code of Conduct, when we all got along because we > were > focused on the technical issues we had in common rather than being > forced to focus on the politics that divide us. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
