I hadn't explained myself well enough to Peter.  The 0.1uF caps go to pins 8 
and 5 to bypass the 5 volt logic supply.  Either 0.1 or 0.01 are fine.  Just 
keeps the noise from the output switching down a bit.

John


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Albertson [mailto:albertson.ch...@gmail.com]
> Sent: October-09-21 1:10 PM
> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Rogue Index Pulses
> 
> Using the opto ioslators as voltage translators should work.  Note the data
> sheet has the words "not recommended for new design" on it.   There is
> likely a newer part.  But maybe you have these on hand already?
> 
> These isolators will do 10 Mbits/second, likely fast enough.  The
> bottleneck is the RC filter made using the 1K resistor and 0.1 uF cap (time
> constant of 0.0001 second)
> 
> One other idea.   Can you run the encoder from a 5 volt power supply?
>  Then there is no need for level conversion
> 
> At 1,000 RPM and 500 pulses per revolution you get 8333 pulses per second.
> Your low pass filter might be a little too aggressive.   But I don't know
> the max shaft RPM.  But do check this.
> 
> On Sat, Oct 9, 2021 at 12:39 PM Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> wrote:
> 
> > On Saturday 09 October 2021 15:22:29 Peter Hodgson wrote:
> >
> > > Hi John,
> > >
> > > Thanks for sharing the drawing. Yes, I would like to get things
> > > properly drawn when I get the time.
> > >
> > > In the mean time....... would you mind having a quick look at the
> > > revised schematic on the following link to check I have placed the
> > > capacitors you suggested in the correct place when using the HCPL2631
> > > ??
> > >
> > > https://www.purbrookengineering.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=
> > >article&id=11
> > >
> > >
> > > I notice on your drawing you have 'Earth' and FGND. What's the
> > > difference?
> > >
> > > Pete
> > >
> > That looks better, as long as the opto's are fast enough. Verify that
> > with a o-scope. And the halscope is not fast enough, use a real one. But
> > please don't use yellow on white for the signal wires, they disappear in
> > the pdf. :(
> >
> > > On 09/10/2021 18:18, John Dammeyer wrote:
> > > > Hi Peter,
> > > > I find it helps to draw a wiring diagram of where things are wired.
> > > > That�s different from a schematic which just shows how things are
> > > > connected.
> > > >
> > > > For example, I've attached the old schematic of my mill wiring
> > > > (before I removed the two HP-UHU drives and wired in the quadrature
> > > > encoder for the spindle into the second Chinese BoB).  Note to self:
> > > >  Really must update now that I have AC servos on everything.
> > > >
> > > > I have colour codes on there for wiring.  But it does not show the
> > > > actual wiring paths.  For example the 24V comes out of the Power
> > > > Supply and splits in two directions.  One to the DIN Rail for  the
> > > > MiniBoB->STMBL drive, the STMBL drive and 24V-16V UHU power supply.
> > > > From there another DIN rail set of terminal blocks to run power out
> > > > to the Bergerda Spindle Interface and now the Bergerda interface
> > > > boards.
> > > >
> > > > But the drawing doesn't actually show the DIN rails or wire lengths
> > > > so there's no way to see if the 24V system has ground loops etc.
> > > > Not from the Schematic.
> > > >
> > > > So I still have to create a new 'mechanical' wiring diagram that
> > > > shows where rather than how things are connected.
> > > >
> > > > John
> > > >
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: Peter Hodgson [mailto:peterjohnhodg...@gmail.com]
> > > >> Sent: October-09-21 1:38 AM
> > > >> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> > > >> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Rogue Index Pulses
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks Chris, yes, I will change the shielding ground to the
> > > >> controller end and isolate the case.
> > > >>
> > > >> Is it best practice to run the 5v and 12v ?grounds? back to the
> > > >> original 24v power supply 0v?
> > > >>
> > > >>> On 9 Oct 2021, at 00:53, Chris Albertson
> > > >>> <albertson.ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> ?I'll say what Gene said.  I'd bet on a groubing issue.  The
> > > >>> schmatic has an error, a groubd wire ismissing and also shows
> > > >>> random crossing grounds. Run everything back to the power supply
> > > >>> minus post.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Also you be much better if the sheild was grounded to the
> > > >>> controller end. Never us a machine and it's mounting bolts as
> > > >>> grounds.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --
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> > > >>> Chris Albertson
> > > >>> Redondo Beach, California
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