Hi Andrew, 
The max my mill will run is 3000 RPM.  And because I made my own pulleys and am 
using a stock V belt there's a bit of vibration at that speed which I don't 
think helps much.

The other issue is backlash on the X is over 0.020" so climb milling is out of 
the question.  I've had a few scary moments when a plunge (due to bad G-Code 
programming on my part) is too fast and I can see the whole table shift as the 
1/2" cutter bites in.

More work to do I guess.
John


> -----Original Message-----
> From: andrew beck [mailto:andrewbeck0...@gmail.com]
> Sent: November-04-21 1:41 AM
> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Project Progress
> 
> John
> 
> I buy dlc costed aluminium end Mills.  From my Chinese supplier.
> 
> In my Linuxcnc controlled machine I use these feeds and speeds.  For a 3
> flute 10mm dia cutter.  With Dlc. (diamand like coating)
> 
> 
> High speed aka fusion 360 adaptive clearing
> 
> Depth of cut 25mm
> Side width of cut. 2mm
> 10k rpm
> 0.15 chip per tooth so 4500mm/min feedrate
> 
> 
> Slotting
> 
> 
> Depth of cut 10
> 10k rpm
> 0.05 chip per tooth so 1500mm/min feedrate
> 
> The cutters last for months of constant use.
> 
> And are like 10 times better than the high speed cutters you are running.
> Plus it's much harder to overheat the carbide. Than HSS.
> 
> For reference you can buy a 10mm cutter for about 30 usd each.
> 
> 6mm cost about 15 usd.
> 
> I get a decent discount on that.  But we are to far apart in the world for
> be to send them to you. (new Zealand
> 
> So in a nut shell.  Try some new cutters.
> 
> I'm running flood coolant.  But I think a mist would be almost as good as
> the Dlc coating is pretty amazing
> 
> Feel free to pm anyone for links
> 
> 
> On Thu, 4 Nov 2021, 19:36 John Dammeyer, <jo...@autoartisans.com> wrote:
> 
> > I used the big 1/2" one for the large pocket and the smaller 5mm one for
> > the smaller pocket and profile.  The surface finish, given my crappy cast
> > aluminium, was really nice.
> >
> > My mill does have a coolant pump but I don't know if I use the mill often
> > enough to fill the reservoir with coolant that then goes mouldy and
> > stinky.  So I'm working on a compressed air mist coolant system.  But maybe
> > having a secondary reservoir that pumps out the main one and adds an
> > aquarium bubbler would work for the flood system.  So in the last 12 years
> > I've never used coolant.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: andrew beck [mailto:andrewbeck0...@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: November-03-21 10:52 PM
> > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Project Progress
> > >
> > > What cutters are you using?
> > >
> > > As a sideline here in New Zealand I buy and sell tooling so I'm always
> > > testing the limits.
> > >
> > > And can probably advise a bit
> > >
> > > On Thu, 4 Nov 2021, 11:29 John Dammeyer, <jo...@autoartisans.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I've been using LCNC quite a bit (for me).   In the photo there are two
> > > > steel spring collars that were entirely done with the mill.  I could
> > have
> > > > left them as large disks with just a stepped hole and the set screw
> > holes
> > > > but what's the fun in that.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > http://www.autoartisans.com/mill/SpindleControl/TrialFitOnSpindleCover-1.jpg
> > > >
> > > > The spindle cover casting (10lbs of scrap aluminium) was machined in
> > the
> > > > places I needed flat surfaces and to get rid of a bit of sag in the
> > casting
> > > > mostly for looks.  I'd occasionally spray a bit of WD-40 but mostly
> > just
> > > > held the shop vac to clean up the chips.
> > > >
> > > >
> > http://www.autoartisans.com/mill/SpindleControl/SpindleCoverplate-4.jpg
> > > >
> > > > Essentially between 1000 and 2000 RPM, 2 flute 1/2" end mill, 25% step
> > > > over, about 2.5 to 5 IPM IPM and a depth of cut of about 0.1" for each
> > > > pass.  This created chips that did not melt onto the tool bit and left
> > a
> > > > quite nice smooth finish.
> > > >
> > > > But with those parameters it did take quite a while.  OTOH, it ran
> > > > automatically and other than check on it periodically and vacuum or
> > blow
> > > > away chips I could do other things nearby.
> > > >
> > > > If I enter the parameters into Machinist Toolbox with a target RPM of
> > 1500
> > > > I see it suggests a tool feed rate of 21 IPM.  I think that would melt
> > the
> > > > chips without flood coolant.  Since I didn't want to screw it up and
> > have
> > > > to cast it all over again I was very conservative.
> > > >
> > > > Was I too conservative on this?   It's been suggested by a friend who
> > runs
> > > > MACH3 that he dials in a much faster feed and spindle rate and then
> > hauls
> > > > back on the sliders to reduce it to very slow and then in small steps
> > bumps
> > > > up the speed until it feels right.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Suggestions are welcome.
> > > > Thanks
> > > > John
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