Sometimes a change of parts is easy.  Sometimes not.  In this case the only 
issue is a 24V max relay voltage limit as the new drivers are rated max 28V.  
The old ones were significantly higher voltage but discontinued.  All fit.  
Software doesn't know the difference.

John


> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Dammeyer [mailto:jo...@autoartisans.com]
> Sent: October-16-22 1:54 PM
> To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)'
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] stmbl servo drives - want to buy...
> 
> Which is why I ordered 500 of the BTS70102EP dual relay drivers and only 
> started on the board upgrades
> when the parts were in _my_ inventory.
> 
> So anyone who wants to design a new version of the STMBL, or anything that 
> uses hi-tech parts, should
> decide to make say 100 and order the parts.  When they have arrived, then 
> design the PC boards and get
> them made.
> 
> It means sitting on a lot of dollars of inventory for as long as a year.  
> Just the way it is now.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Markus Bechtold [mailto:mar...@r-bechtold.de]
> > Sent: October-16-22 1:27 PM
> > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] stmbl servo drives - want to buy...
> >
> > There are newer versions of the stmbl and multiple add ons but the 
> > development is on hold at the moment
> > because there is a problem: selecting parts, design the board  and just 
> > before ordering boards most of the
> > parts will become unoptanium rinse and repeat. I hope it will change in the 
> > next month.
> >
> > > On 16. Oct 2022, at 14:03, Markus Bechtold <mar...@r-bechtold.de> wrote:
> > >
> > > This problem with the power stage is solved there is a solution with a 
> > > new High power powerstage
> > >
> > > The main problem at the moment is that some critical components like the 
> > > 2 stm32 are not available (as
> of
> > today there is a delivery date 10.03.2023) The stmbl uses some features of 
> > this stm controllers like the
> > internet HIghspeed comperators and Shunt opamps.
> > > Hopefully there will be new stmbl as short as possible if the craziness 
> > > of the chip market will normalise and
> > you have not to pay something like 45? for a stm32
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> On 16. Oct 2022, at 08:41, Roland Jollivet <roland.jolli...@gmail.com> 
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Now.  Why is it not available?  Two reasons.  The key thing about the
> > >>> STMBL for 3 phase AC servos was that it used single driver for all three
> > >>> windings.  Probably originally designed for washing machines.  It was
> > >>> discontinued.  A different one with slightly lower power was available.
> > >>> There are others but different pinout so board change.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Yes, the same style driver chip found in all the chinese drives too. A
> > >> 27pin PDIP
> > >> I opened a Chinese drive up and it looked to be a text-book 
> > >> implementation
> > >> of one of these drivers. With very little noise suppression though.
> > >>
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