Hang on here, back up a bit.  Start at the beginning.  What is the input 
voltage on the name  plate for the entire machine?  What voltage are you 
feeding to the machine?  For example if the machine's name plate calls for 
400v, but you are feeding it 460v, that would explain having about 30v too high 
voltage at the servo's transformer.  Does the machine have a large transformer 
in it similar to this that the main power goes through?
https://image.hgrinc.com/inventory/0823/0423194/20230804110345443_L.JPG
The different taps on a large transformer like that would allow you to adjust 
the main voltage to what is needed.  (Not all machines include this though.)

No, you cannot power an 8i20 with AC voltage, it must be fed DC.

All servo drives that run off AC power have the rectifier and capacitors for 
converting the AC to DC built in. (Therefore they are usually much larger and 
more expensive than an equivalent DC powered drive.)

Todd Zuercher
P. Graham Dunn Inc.
630 Henry Street
Dalton, Ohio 44618
Phone:  (330)828-2105ext. 2031

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piektd., 2024. g. 21. jūn., plkst. 15:52 — lietotājs Peter Wallace
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>
> On Fri, 21 Jun 2024, Viesturs L?cis wrote:
>
> > Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2024 14:08:00 +0300
> > From: "[UTF-8] Viesturs L?cis" <viesturs.la...@gmail.com>
> > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> >     <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
> > 1) should I place rectifier bridge + capacitor for each drive
> > separately or feed them from one source?
>
> One source is better
>

Ok, got it!

>
> > 2) what is suggested max ripple voltage for 8i20?
> More an issue with the filter capacitors, the 8I20s current loop will
> track any ripple (which should be slight if you have 3 phase power)
>

I added those motor power ratings together, it is approximately 4kW. I found an 
online site that calculates required capacitance to achieve required ripple 
voltage. My assumption was 10V ripple (and even that requires 10mF capacitors). 
Is that acceptable value?

>
> > 3) do I understand correctly that rectifying 3phase 380VAC will
> > result in something around 540VDC which exceeds 8i20 limits and I
> > should use 1phase 230VAC (adding transformers seems to reduce AC
> > voltage seems like unjustified cost)?
>
> Yes, the 8I20 expects rectified 230V single phase or better, rectified
> 208V 3 phase. Rectifed 380VAC will cause an explosion...
>

I went back to machine and found out that servodrive power input is supposed to 
be 3phase 210VAC (210V between phases) - I had not paid much of attention to 
the transformer at the bottom of the cabinet. And under a layer of dust I found 
3 wires marked as 210V and in electric wiring diagram it also was marked as 
210VAC (between phases) and only destination of this output is servodrive power 
input. The thing is - I checked with multimeter and it was showing nice and 
stable 232,2 VAC between phases (+/- 0,1V between any of 3 phases, but I have 
no idea about the possible error of multimeter itself although I would assume 
it to be less than 1V). From servodrive manual it seems to me that this is a 
version with 3phase 200VAC input.

BTW If actual input seems to be 30V higher than rated, it seems to be the 
reason for A.40 "overvoltage" error.
Is there anything I can do to fix it? I have no idea. because it is direct 
output of transformer.

Anyway, the question is - how bad is it for 8i20 to rectify 3-phase 2302VAC?

>
> What are your motor voltage ratings?
>

I do not know where to check that. Nameplate in motor itself does not say that. 
From a table in servodrive manual I found that for Axis motor rated output is 
150W and rated current is 3A which make me think that rated voltage would be 
50V. Is it correct to calculate like that a 3phase motor? (IMHO this method 
should be fine for single phase).

Viesturs


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