I don"t know anything about HAL commands.  However, I recall that velocity is a 
vector and position is a scalar.  Not the same thing, so not directly 
interchangable as a PID variable.
Velocity is the rate of change of position.  Integral of velocity is position
Hope this helps.
Martin Owen Patton
North Ridgeville, Ohio 44039

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On 1/9/25 6:26 AM, Viesturs Lācis <viesturs.la...@gmail.com> wrote:

>  svētd., 2024. g. 8. dec., plkst. 23:52 — lietotājs Viesturs Lācis
>  (<viesturs.la...@gmail.com>) rakstīja:
>  >
>  > I would like to ask for more details on how exactly to implement this.
>  > Since now the pid input is position, adding limit3 does not make sense
>  > as I would not control the jerk. I need to change the pid input to
>  > velocity. Does it mean that it will change from closing position loop
>  > to closing velocity loop? And I will have to redo pid tuning?
>  >
>  
>  I am trying to introduce limit3 component before PID input.
>  With all the holidays and other matters inbetween I have been stuck on
>  this for a while.
>  What I have in HAL file at the moment:
>  
>  net motor.00.vel-fb hm2_5i24.0.encoder.00.velocity => pid.0.feedback
>  
>  net emcmot.00.vel-cmd-raw   joint.0.vel-cmd
>  net emcmot.00.vel-cmd-raw   limit.0.in
>  
>  net emcmot.00.vel-cmd-lim   limit.0.out
>  net emcmot.00.vel-cmd-lim   pid.0.command
>  
>  net motor.00.command    pid.0.output
>  net motor.00.command    bldc.0.value
>  
>  The thing I do not understand at all is how to approach PID tuning. At
>  the moment I have set P=20 and all the rest to 0 and I get
>  oscillations indicating that the value is too big, but the actual
>  velocity is totally different from commanded. If I try to jog, motor
>  does not slow down when button is released, I have to jog in opposite
>  direction to reduce actual velocity, motor drifts until ferror limit
>  is reached. It seems that it is no use of usual approach with starting
>  with P parameter which almost immediately gives more or less control
>  over the motor (increase P until vibration starts, reduce a bit and
>  move to D).
>  
>  I would appreciate any advice on how to tackle this one.
>  
>  Viesturs
>  
>  
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