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Most email lists don't allow attachments; they're set up for text
communication. Since I've been guest moderating this month, there's only
one message that was blocked, and it was spam. It's easy to put up urls of
images, etc. I'm on a number of successful email lists (and run two of
them) and there's been no problem at all.
Lists have their own trajectories, however; Jon Marshall, an anthro-
pologist on Cybermind, wrote an account of Cybermind, Living on Cybermind,
one of the lists I co-moderate; it might give you a better understanding
of their phenomenology.
Most lists I'm on are based on discussion in depth, including empyre of
course; it's one of the few places online that in-depth analysis can
occur, outside of blogs, and blogs are clumsy in a sense; with email
lists, the posts/discussions come to you.
Finally, empyre's been wildly successful; the experiment this time was,
among other things, to open up the discussion to everyone, without guest
presenters. ...
Thanks, Alan
On Thu, 23 Mar 2017, csa...@umbc.edu wrote:
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Simon
Why is the conversation here ?far and few? you ask? Perhaps because the
message does not (only) reach its intended destination. Perhaps it
reaches no one. This list blocks all of my posts with attached pictures,
sound files, and and detournment (perhaps because that breaks the
constraints and protocols of the list).
Far and few between each post is almost nostalgic in its epistolary
model of communication. Here I am writing to you ? addressed to you by
name // and the others (unknown to me) are functioning like surveillance
(silent auditors who may never read these posts ? who can keep up with
the overflow ? not even the NSA). And, I imagine someone reading the
posts and archiving and organizing them. Unknown to the senders.
For more than a decade I had no TV, only emergent-internet (The Well ?
who here was on that precursor of the internet?) and dial-up service
(for 2 decades), and no cell phone (for 5 decades). Phone machines (a
radical innovation) and letters with the copy shop and coffee house
essential to the archive. Mailings were everything (see my Networked Art
? for how robust those networks were). We had video machines, networks,
and electronic music/media. It just was not tagged, mined, and
surveilled successfully.
This list may be preparing us for a past as prologue. To avoid both
monolithic spectacle, and a return to the other forms of e-say writing ?
C
On Mar 23, 2017, at 12:03 AM, Alan Sondheim <sondh...@panix.com> wrote:
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Psychologically, how do we deal with this -
FBI has information indicating Trump associates communicated with suspected
Russian operatives to possibly coordinate release of information damaging to
Clinton campaign, officials told CNN. [www.cnn.com]
Or this -
https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/information-war-begun/2017/03/22
And how can we involve empyre subscribers in the discussion?
I appreciate everyone who has contributed to this discussion on
empyre. But I wonder why, when discussions - noisy and often
off-track - on Facebook, can continue with high-speed ferocity for
a seemingly endless amount of time / number of posts - where here,
where there's opportunity for reflection (admittedly without the
cleverness and grandstanding), posts are far and few between?
Comments appreciated!
- Alan, thanks -
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