dear Sarah. all:

your responses are much appreciated,
as you now dwelled on two examples  which provide many resonances.......


Christina McPhee 's  Tesserae of Venus,  (>>exploring the buckling or folding 
of skin: the skin
of the body, the skin of drawings of technological landscapes as these
drawings buckle and fold over time in the weather, the skin of the
photograph documenting this deterioration over time, the skin of the earth
as it submits to processes of energy extraction and other kinds of
technological deformations, the skin of the buckling surface of the
carbon-saturated landscape of Venus....>.)

This is a beautiful description that gives me a strong tactile sensation.....

and Teri Rueb's interactive soundwalks, such as Core Sample, which was 
exhibited at Boston's ICA and then won an award at ars electrnica, where i 
saw/experienced it before starting to probe it some more, wondering whether 
sound art can in fact yield the very complex story you are telling us in your 
won words or narrativization.

I am only now commenting on how a work can affect or reach/impact an  audience 
/   the conceptual sides of the works you just brought here are just astounding 
and very provoking.  I kept thinking about what you say here, and it inspired. 

now, Core Sample -- you say:  the walking body reads the island, i think that 
is true, and the walker and the person's bodymind may experience all kinds of 
responses and intuitions about the place, as enterting a place can do  (and 
here we are refering to the actual sound walk on Spectacle Island, not the 
audio installation in the  Museum   (the "non site", as Smithson would have 
called it, the mirror site?);  i am thinking of course of land art here, and 
what Robert Smithson and others tried to do in the 70s when working/walking 
into geographical cultures and locales, performing with them and through them.  
  

The re-experiencing is much more complicated for the person who does not know 
the island and its history or present consumption, so these are local works, 
yes? embodied with local and ancestral memories (5th dimensions ---    as 
choreographer Olu Taiwo would argue).......

re-experiencing also is complicated by (our) terminologies, as anthropologist  
Tim Ingold has strongly argued in his writing ("AGAINST SOUNDSCAPE", see:  
Autumn Leaves: Sound and the Environment in Artistic Practice.  Edited Angus 
Carlyle.  Paris: Double Entendre, 2007. 10-13), where he beautifully evokes the 
enwinded (breathing) body as a continuous moving experiencer of sound in 
continuous changing emplacements......

the sound (audio art ) art walker however is not doing that, "reading the 
island,"  nor breathing it phenomenologically, or at least the breathing is 
changed,  engaging a (reproductive) hearing-in,  somewhat disconnected from the 
hearing of the actual sounding place (the island) but  also "extended" into 
hearing the sampled "cores" and scores in the ears  (Francisco Lopez and other 
have worked extensively on such re-processing of sound sampled/recorded in the 
biosphere  -- i cannot speak about geological strata here ...... but the BBC 
reported this week that a research time has now inserted sensors so far deep 
down [ 6 km]  under the earth that they hope to get better data on  
anticipatory seismic motions causing earthquakes or tsunamis ..... the project 
is called the Nankai Trough Seismogenic Zone Experiment (NanTroSEIZE), directed 
by Prof. Harold Tobin 
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8073293.stm).....

but we do not just hear with ears. 
(well, now we could talk about tsunamis and New Orleans for a while)

so what is the walker/listener extended into, exactly, what kinetic and 
cognitive and synaesthetic experience?  and how is that critical or potentially 
the extending critical awareness of one'e convoluted relationships to some 
places and indifferent relations to others  (the same would be the case for 
one'e relations to >>social habits, requirements, and regulations and in all 
sorts of production of unexpected and unpredictable linkages˜ and  "projects 
that track artifacts of the body in space and place [Sarah] ? --   what are 
such artifacts, that leave traces? )  as the walker, she or he,  is not reading 
& analyzing scientific data  - nor does one generally expect laywomen and 
laymen to walk into an artwork or sci-artifact and hearing-in scientific data 
to grasp (Brecht would be joyful) the backstage texts and the underlying 
relations of production here that constitute the conditions we are invited to 
analyse and then change.....?

the audio art that we tend to refer to here (interactive) is working on several 
layers for sure, and the sensorial and experiential ones are much pushed in 
such contemporary artforms -  as well as the "empathy" research now happening 
between movement artists and neuroscience / experimental psychology. but the 
critical layers are sometimes much harder to glimpse. 

geospatial tags? 

What do others think about Sarah's powerful claim?  :  

>>the walker encounters geospatial tags and engages audio narrative of the many 
>>layers 
of density of information: the geological record and satellite communication, 
air traffic control of the nearby airport, 
the archaeological record of native cultures on the island, the artifacts of the
increasing speed and violence of usage of the last 150 years, the current
recreational use of the island as a park.   Engaging the unselfconsciousness
of the walker as a kind of empty state, the walker moves over and through
the layers of human and nonhuman activity, engaging a four-dimensional map
of narrative of the landscape.>>>


If the artwork could achieve this four dimensional narrative experience, i 
would be awed.  It didn't do it for me, and now i return for a moment to the 
"abjective" relations i mentioned.


I only used this term, for the first time in my accounts of a recent production 
i helped to create ("Suna No Onna"), as i have come to think of interactive 
(sensor driven) work as largely a red herring, artistically, or if you want, 
also for end users interested in practical or pleasant functionalities.....   
Sensor i believe are unpleasant. they don't give me pleasure.  (the musicians 
working with data suits/gloves  may differ on this,  i remember the passion 
with which  Pamela Z performed with feedbacks and multiple voices, and how 
Julie Bokowicz performs her "Suicided Voice" and her excellent writing on 
kinaesonics). .......

But it did not yield quite what we had conceptualized and dreamed (as aesthetic 
manifestiation of a wearable space and a digital environment controlled or at 
least influenced by the performer movement/gesture and designmotion  and in 
turn learning from the extending environment and its "ecology" to integrate 
possibilities of movement into one's performance) , and certainly, over months 
of rehearsal, the brittleness and unreliability, or unpredictability or the 
data-generating sensors worn by our performers and integrated into a full 
wearable experience (our fashion designer, Michèle Danjoux, integrated the 
sensing technologies into the clothes and  garments 
(http://www.danssansjoux.org)  -   it drove us up the wall.  

It began to be apparent that new or particular movement techniques, developed 
for what we call "wearable space" , would have to be learnt and trained,  
performers working with applied (garment integrational, soft technology-driven 
smart materials etc) sensortized accoutrements and garments would not just 
improvise but, if we composed a new work with such an aesthetic, would have to 
develop some form of collaborating vocabulary on scores  (with musicians, 
composers, digital designers, virtual 3D designers and filmmakers and 
programmers), or,  perform with softwares and code, etc and be intimate with 
the various ways the software analyzes data and reapplies them to "outputs"  
(drawing, graphics, motionimages, sound, light, robotic devices, etc)

alternatively, we build installations for audience interaction  emphasizing the 
intuitive learning or behaving potentials of our garments and "synchronous 
objects" in our "built" / designed environments (after all, sensor input drives 
data output, and that tends to be audio, video, 3D game worlds, light, ...... 
not so much more?), and the we scale down or we keep in kind that audience 
arrive unprepared / unwitting and thus need to take on a new language or 
sense/infer the layers that are described, say, for CORE SAMPLE.    Our 
audience, at the same time, is emancipated already.

In "Suna no Onna,"  the narrative enviroment is a film/novel,  there is a 
script.  We found working through choreography and (scripted) damaturgy  -- 
following a theatre model applied to the age of digital performance, and using 
the knowledge we had gained over years -- a challenge once we lifted the whole 
digital scenography to the contingent levels of extended sensing functions of 
our technological devices, which actually limited movement intelligence & 
expressive capacity of the dancers. 

I would never think of such working within interactional design as "subjecting" 
myself to any technology.   

Working with interfaces opens up many interesting and challenging possibilities 
of constraint,  there are always parameter constraints and transmission 
constraints and mapping issues  (and software issues, i remember that AI 
computer scientists sometimes laugh at the kind of software, Max/Msp or PD or  
Isadora we take on and adapt to rather than coding new/custom-built systems), 
and thus I have learnt to accept (with many misgivings) that interactional 
performance is limiting and on occasion, abjective, and also artistically not 
as satisfying to me as i had thought earlier, say, in the late 1990s when i 
began to observe my peers starting to use real time interactivity de rigueur. 

I also thought it opened up a new era (the interactive paradigm), involving our 
audiences in many new ways.   

That was certainly a fallacy.  

The audiences i have met over the years could care less about interface design, 
if the work was not good or interesting, making the time they spent coming out 
worthwhile;  of course this is all relative.  But look at the trends,  many 
works have to be designed for limited "user" capacity, you see an increase in 
one on one performances, restricted access, in the museums the gadgets break 
after a week, your see online performances perhaps rising (multiplayer 
environments) and game-like  plays/performances provoking momentary interest, 
but hard core gamers tend to get bored by art games, and dance or theatre or 
art audiences are probably only mildly dazzled now by the failed promises of 
"interactive art", a myth of democratization if ever there was one.   Most 
interactuve art is merely reactive, you cannot change the parameters and thus 
your input it rather limited, and functionality quickly bores, so does causal 
(cause and effect) listening/behaving. 

Interactive art is necessarily cybernetic and thus all about control systems, 
not emancipation.   

But then, emancipation could be emancipation into a better control system.

regards
Johannes Birringer
DAP Lab

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