I think you are making some huge assumptions about the economics of book production. First - the vast majority of authors under the current dominant model of publishing *dont* make any money. Authors do it for the chance to make money, and they do it for the profile. So there is no monster financial industry that is pouring money into culture workers, they are pouring money into book production and distribution.

Secondly, it is reported that ebook sales are going through the roof. Amazon has reported that ebooks are the most popular book format (http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=176060&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1565581&highlight). Ebooks have lower costs for production, infact you can more or less say that producing an EPUB (a very popular and open 'almost standard' for ebooks) costs nothing. Find the right software and its done in minutes. This puts *very* profitable publishing in the path of open publishing.

Lastly models for becoming profitable are changing. The biggest shift I see is to put the money at the front of the production cycle instead of at the end. There are platforms like Unbound (http://www.unbound.co.uk/) that are giving this a go, and many successful examples in Kickstarter:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/robinsloan/robin-writes-a-book-and-you-get-a-copy

The above example is a fiction being funded at $14,000 before it was produced. In a blog post on Creative Commons the author states:

"I think the most important thing about a book is not actually the book. Instead, it’s the people who have assembled around it. It’s everyone who’s ever read it, and everyone who’s ever re- or misappropriated it. It’s everyone who’s ever pressed it into someone else’s hands [...] it’s that group of people that makes a book viable, both commercially and culturally. And without them — all alone, with only its author behind it — a book is D.O.A."
http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/23876

Thats a pretty good argument from the inside of fringe cultural production that it *doesnt need* the publishing industry. He also goes on to explain secondary economies he is trying to generate from the book.

Also you may wish to look here at more funded projects:
http://www.kickstarter.com/discover/categories/publishing/most-funded?ref=more

The above is a list of very well funded books (85,000 USD being the top earner) that demonstrate a model we can all participate in as cultural workers.

Kickstarter approaches have their issues, but I think there are many people, orgs, and companies that want books produced and have the $ and motivation to pay for them to be produced.

adam





On 01/12/2012 06:40 PM, Dmytri Kleiner wrote:

Definitely Simon. But as mentioned, this is only a tiny fringe. A small
percentage of the total number of cultural workers, who are are
currently working for the capitalist cultural industry.

Thus, within Capitalism, our social capacity for the production of open
works will always be tiny in comparison to our social capacity for
"closed" works. Is this what we mean by "There is no disconnect?"...
that out of the entire body of our cultural productive forces, a small
minority is able to exist as open producers on the fringes of
capitalism? If this is the limit of our ambition, than "Free Cultural"
is nothing more than a sort of lumpen proletariat in the cultural field.

And end even within this meagre ambition of maintaing an "open"
subcultural fringe, there is still a "disconnect" with capitalism since
not only will capital not fund open works, but the logic of capital
conflicts with open practice in the space of what they perceive as their
rightful consumer market, as we have seen in the persecution of artists
such as John Oswald, Negitvland, DJ Dangermouse, and many others, not to
mention the war on file sharing, etc.

Is Free Culture content to be a beleaguered, insular, fringe? Or is Free
Culture meant to be a critique of our curent cultural industries? Does
it aim only for it's own meagre existence? Or does it aim for the
transformation of cultural production? If the answer is the later, than
this ambition can not be reconciled with capitalism.

Or is Free Culture simply proposing the elimination of the popular
cultural industries and a massive descaling of cultural production and
employment? Even this is jousting a windmills. Capitalism will not
accept the argument that they should just chill out and abandoned
copyright because the culture they make sucks anyway, and that we can
make better works with the free time of dilettantes, studends and hobyists.

If this our position? Scrap big culture? Personally, like I suspect many
on list, I generally prefer more experimental and independent cultural
works and wouldn't really mis Hollywood and friends. But make no
mistake, understand that in taking such a position we are operating
without the solidarity of the vast majority of cultural consumers and
against the interests of the vast majority of people employed in the
cultural industries. Which means such a position has no social power, no
political power and no relevancy what so ever.


Best,




On 12.01.2012 18:12, Simon Biggs wrote:
This question of who pays for the writers to write isn't very
different as to who pays for artists. Many net artists receive no
payment for their work but they put their work in the public realm for
nothing anyway. Some artists in other media also work this way. Many
such artists do not look to their work to generate income directly but
indirectly - eg: having work in the public realm raises their profile
and they get museum shows and fees for that. Then they get tenured
academic positions in art schools because of their shows, etc... This
economic model has something in common with the software developer
model you mentioned Dmytri.

best

Simon


On 12 Jan 2012, at 16:56, Dmytri Kleiner wrote:

On 12.01.2012 17:26, adam wrote:

Well I think the open source ethic is well aligned with capitalism.
There is no disconnect there.

Yet, software has different economics than cultural works. Open
Source developers are paid by organisations that employ such software
in production, and thus the availability of open source packages
reduces their production costs, allowing them to retain more earnings.

The same situation occurs only infrequently when it comes to books,
there may be situations where it does, i.e. reference books or
documentation. I can see these being supported by organisations that
are consumers of such works, but not much else.

So, if capital will not pay creators of open works. Who will? No
doubt, some fringe can be maintained by cultural grants and simular
social funds, and a wider fringe can maintain itself by working for
free and earning subsistence elsewhere (or simply being rich to begin
with), yet this says nothing of the great majority of books, read by
millions, produced today by the capitalist industry, which offers no
way to make these open books.

Best,



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