I definitely get that there are a lot of reasonable opinions on this. I
honestly agree with most of the opinions (I wish discord were more open,
for example), and I don't have a strong preference myself.

But I think this is bigger than this project - as Sam said, the WebAssembly
community has been using discord, and I think it would take an extremely
strong reason for us to not continue with them there. This is sort of like
github - I agree with the arguments against using it (not fully open, too
centralized, policy issues, etc.) but in the end that's where the community
is, so for most projects it's the place that is easiest and takes the least
effort - in this case, almost no effort, as the wasm community already uses
that discord and even has an #emscripten room.

(I didn't know LLVM also uses discord - that's even more reason, then.)

If people want to experiment with a bridge from discord to IRC or something
like that, I'd be interested to see that happen!

- Alon



On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 10:53 AM Sam Clegg <[email protected]> wrote:

> FWIW I think mozilla switched to https://matrix.org/.
>
> But LLVM and WebAssembly are both on discord now.     Since a lot of us
> also work on those projects I (personally) think discord makes sense for
> now.
>
> This might be a case of Alon having to make an DBFL decision because it
> unlikey people we agree here.
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 10:26 AM Shlomi Fish <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Alon,
>>
>> On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 13:37:28 -0800
>> Alon Zakai <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi everyone,
>> >
>> > In around a month Mozilla will remove the irc.mozilla.org IRC server
>> we've
>> > been using for #emscripten. So we need another option for real-time
>> > discussion.
>> >
>> > One option is discord, where the wasm community has been gathering, and
>> > there's already an #emscripten room there that someone set up,
>> >
>> > https://discordapp.com/channels/453584038356058112/590215642444202044
>> (docs
>> > PR: https://github.com/emscripten-core/emscripten/pull/10165)
>> >
>> > I don't particularly have an opinion between the options in this space.
>> > Discord seems reasonable to go with for now since as I said it's already
>> > used by wasm in general which obviously overlaps with emscripten users
>> > quite a lot. But if there's interest, perhaps we could also set up a
>> bridge
>> > to other places people want, or consider other options.
>> >
>> > Thoughts?
>> >
>>
>> I dislike discord's web UI because it keeps emitting beeps and the
>> "servers"/chatrooms multiplicity is confusing. I also don't like slack
>> too much.
>> I like freenode for IRC and also use the telegram desktop client.
>>
>> > - Alon
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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