Independently of the topic /per se/, I wish I didn't see herd mentality
as a decision basis in a R&D project - hurts my feelings.

Cheers!
Beuc

On 18/01/2020 01:53, Alon Zakai wrote:
> I definitely get that there are a lot of reasonable opinions on this.
> I honestly agree with most of the opinions (I wish discord were more
> open, for example), and I don't have a strong preference myself.
>
> But I think this is bigger than this project - as Sam said, the
> WebAssembly community has been using discord, and I think it would
> take an extremely strong reason for us to not continue with them
> there. This is sort of like github - I agree with the arguments
> against using it (not fully open, too centralized, policy issues,
> etc.) but in the end that's where the community is, so for most
> projects it's the place that is easiest and takes the least effort -
> in this case, almost no effort, as the wasm community already uses
> that discord and even has an #emscripten room.
>
> (I didn't know LLVM also uses discord - that's even more reason, then.)
>
> If people want to experiment with a bridge from discord to IRC or
> something like that, I'd be interested to see that happen!
>
> - Alon
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 10:53 AM Sam Clegg <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>     FWIW I think mozilla switched to https://matrix.org/.
>
>     But LLVM and WebAssembly are both on discord now.     Since a lot
>     of us also work on those projects I (personally) think discord
>     makes sense for now.
>
>     This might be a case of Alon having to make an DBFL decision
>     because it unlikey people we agree here.
>
>
>     On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 10:26 AM Shlomi Fish
>     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>         Hi Alon,
>
>         On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 13:37:28 -0800
>         Alon Zakai <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>         wrote:
>
>         > Hi everyone,
>         >
>         > In around a month Mozilla will remove the irc.mozilla.org
>         <http://irc.mozilla.org> IRC server we've
>         > been using for #emscripten. So we need another option for
>         real-time
>         > discussion.
>         >
>         > One option is discord, where the wasm community has been
>         gathering, and
>         > there's already an #emscripten room there that someone set up,
>         >
>         >
>         https://discordapp.com/channels/453584038356058112/590215642444202044
>         (docs
>         > PR: https://github.com/emscripten-core/emscripten/pull/10165)
>         >
>         > I don't particularly have an opinion between the options in
>         this space.
>         > Discord seems reasonable to go with for now since as I said
>         it's already
>         > used by wasm in general which obviously overlaps with
>         emscripten users
>         > quite a lot. But if there's interest, perhaps we could also
>         set up a bridge
>         > to other places people want, or consider other options.
>         >
>         > Thoughts?
>         >
>
>         I dislike discord's web UI because it keeps emitting beeps and the
>         "servers"/chatrooms multiplicity is confusing. I also don't
>         like slack too much.
>         I like freenode for IRC and also use the telegram desktop client.
>
>         > - Alon
>         >
>
>
>
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