Thanks Dan,

Lets update the draft and have some discussion of it in the Paris meeting.

Cheers,

Joe
On Mar 6, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Dan Harkins wrote:

> 
>  Hi Joe,
> 
>  Here are my 4 suggestions to address certificate enrollment:
> 
> 1. Add New section
> ------------------
> 
> 3.9 Certificate Provisioning Within the Tunnel
> 
>   Provisioning of a peer's certificate is supported in TEAP by performing
>   the Simple PKI Request/Response from [RFC5272] using PKCS#10 and
>   PKCS#7 TLVs, respectively. A peer sends the Simple PKI Request using a
>   PKCS#10 CertificateRequest encoded into the body of a PKCS#10 TLV (see
>   section 4.2.14). The TEAP Server issues a Simple PKI Response using a
>   PKCS#7 degenerate "certs-only" message encoded into the body of a PKCS#7
>   TLV (see section 4.2.13).
> 
>   The Simple PKI Request/Response generation and processing rules of
>   [RFC5272] SHALL apply to TEAP, with the exception of error conditions.
>   In the event of an error, the TEAP Server SHOULD respond with an Error
>   TLV using the most descriptive error code possible; it MAY ignore
>   the PKCS#10 request which generated the error.
> 
> 
> 2. Modify 4.2.4
> ---------------
> 
> Add error codes
> 
>     2003 Unsupported Algorithm in CertificateSigning request
>     2004 Unsupported Extensions in CertificateSigning request
>     2005 Bad Identity in CertificateSigning request
>     2006 Bad CertificateSigning request
>     2007 Internal CA Error
>     2008 General PKI Error
> 
> 
> 3. Modify 4.2.13
> ----------------
> 
> Old text
> 
> 4.2.13. PKCS#7 TLV
> 
>   The PKCS#7 TLV is sent by the EAP server to the peer inside the
>   Server-Trusted-Root TLV.  It contains PKCS#7-wrapped [RFC2315] X.509
>   certificates.  The format consists of a certificate or certificate
>   chain in a Certificates-Only PKCS#7 SignedData message as defined in
>   [RFC2311].
> 
>   The PKCS#7 TLV is always marked as optional, which cannot be
>   responded to with a NAK TLV.  TEAP server implementations that claim
>   to support the dynamic provisioning defined in this document SHOULD
>   support this TLV.  TEAP peer implementations MAY support this TLV.
> 
>   If the PKCS#7 TLV contains a certificate or certificate chain that is
>   not acceptable to the peer, then the peer MUST ignore the TLV.
> 
> New text
> 
> 4.2.13. PKCS#7 TLV
> 
>   The PKCS#7 TLV is used by the EAP server to deliver (a) certificate(s)
>   to the peer. The format consists of a certificate or certificate chain
>   in a degenerate certificates-only PKCS#7 SignedData Content as defined
>   in [RFC2311].
> 
>   When used in response to a Trusted-Server-Root TLV request from the peer,
>   the EAP server MUST send the PKCS#7 TLV inside a Trusted-Server-Root TLV.
>   When used in response to a PKCS#10 certificate enrollment request from
>   the peer, the EAP server MUST send the PKCS#7 TLV without a
>   Trusted-Server-Root TLV.
> 
>   The PKCS#7 TLV is always marked as optional, which cannot be responded
>   to with a NAK TLV. TEAP implementations that support the
>   Trusted-Server-Root TLV or the PKCS#10 TLV MUST support this TLV.
> 
>   Peers MUST NOT assume that the certificates in a PKCS#7 are in any
>   order. TEAP Servers SHOULD include all intermediate certificates needed
>   to form complete certificate paths to one or more trust anchors, and not
>   just return the newly issued certificate(s). TEAP Servers MAY return
>   CRLs in the CRL bag. TEAP Servers MAY return self-signed certificates.
>   Peers that handle self-signed certificates or trust anchors MUST
>   NOT implicitly trust these certificates merely due to their presence
>   in the certificate bag.
> 
>   Note:
>   Peer's are advised to take great care in deciding whether to use a
>   received certificate as a trust anchor. The authenticated nature of the
>   tunnel in which a PKCS#7 bag is received can provide a level of
>   authenticity to the certificates contained therein. Peers are advised
>   to take into account the implied authority of the EAP server and to
>   constrain the trust it can achieve through the trust anchor received
>   in a PKCS#7 TLV.
> 
> 4. Remove reference to RFC5422
> ------------------------------
> 
>  regards,
> 
>  Dan.
> 
> On Wed, February 29, 2012 10:29 pm, Joe Salowey wrote:
>> 
>> On Feb 29, 2012, at 10:09 PM, Dan Harkins wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, February 29, 2012 9:57 pm, Joe Salowey wrote:
>>>> The current tunnel method draft contains TLVs for PKCS#10 and PKCS#7
>>>> TLVs.
>>>> 
>>>> The purpose of either of these TLVs is not well described.   I think we
>>>> need to describe the purpose of these TLVs better or remove them.
>>>> 
>>>> The PKCS#10 TLV makes a brief reference to the Simple PKI request of
>>>> CMS
>>>> (RFC 5272), but does not provide much more description than that
>>>> reference.
>>>> 
>>>> The PKCS#7 TLV doesn't really describe it usage.  It could be used to
>>>> carry the enrollment response, or it could be used to send a root
>>>> certificate to the peer in the case where an inner method is used to
>>>> authenticate the tunnel.
>>>> 
>>>> It doesn't seem that either of these is a complete enough
>>>> specification.
>>>> 
>>>> Does someone care enough about this functionality to provide better and
>>>> more complete test for it?
>>> 
>>> I care about this functionality and will be willing to describe
>>> the syntax of these messages but what test are you talking about?
>>> 
>> 
>> [Joe] Thanks Dan, I was thinking of walking on hot coals...  Ooops, I
>> meant text.
>> 
>>> Dan.
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

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