> On 11 Oct 2019, at 16:09, Michael Richardson <m...@sandelman.ca> wrote:
> So, can wired just be a degenerate version of wifi, where there can be only
> one "ESSID", and there are no beacons to consider?

On the whole that has been my thought.  But it is a matter of which mechanism 
to degenerate to.  Is it TLS-PSK?  eDPP++?  TLS with naked public keys++?  And 
again, this is the on-prem case.  For cloud, we are well along.


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