I have had recent issue with the Code of Conduct (https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/Foundation/CodeOfConduct?action=show&redirect=CodeOfConduct) myself.
In particular, I don't know how to resolve some of the contents of the CoC with the notion that tone policing is bad (see http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Tone_argument for an example). On 12/11/2013 10:46 PM, Karen Sandler wrote: > > I've been asked to clarify my response to this. I want to say clearly > that Jon's message was outside the Code of Conduct, and I spoke to him > about it off-list. I sincerely hope that there won't be other posts like > that one in the future, from anyone. While Kat could have been more > appreciative of the work that Jon has done, the response she got was > very sarcastic and did not engage in a polite substantive discussion of > the points. It was not respectful or considerate and did not assume > people mean well. I am glad that Andre and Seif pointed that out, though > I think that in this and in cases on other mailing lists it's easy to > respond with a too negative message. I think a simple warning is > sufficient, followed by action if necessary upon repeat behavior. I'm > also glad that Kat directly addressed it. In any case, I hope we can > move on from this instance. > > The point of my original message is that I think we can learn from this > and be nicer to each other. I also think we should improve the Code of > Conduct so there is specific action recommended. Right now it's so vague > I'm not sure it's helpful (we have a lot of posts that aren't generous > on gnome lists, for example). As you may have seen, I've suggested it as > a point of discussion at our next meeting tomorrow if there's time (and > elsewhere if there isn't). I've also suggested to the board that we > should improve the Code of Conduct and it is on the agenda for the next > board meeting. > > karen > > On 2013-12-04 16:37, Karen Sandler wrote: >> Everyone obviously cares that the engagement team remain the >> supportive and positive place that it is. We've got (generally) >> regular phone meetings that reinforce the personal relationships >> between us and there's a lot of great discussion on the IRC channel. I >> hate to see this mailing list go the way of so many other free >> software lists. >> >> I think it was unfortunate that some of the tones in the thread were >> negative. No matter what, we all need to be respectful and try to be >> as positive as possible. It's tough to find that line where we can >> disagree with someone but do it in a positive and constructive way but >> we should stive for that. We should be able to always avoid being >> harsh. >> >> Most importantly, awesome work is being done all around which >> shouldn't be overlooked! Engagement activities like cleaning up the >> website and wiki, making redirects, creating promotional materials and >> coordinating participation can be a grind but I think it's fun because >> of who I get to do it with. I'm so encouraged with all of the people >> who have decided to chime in. >> >> Let's resume other parts of this conversation with a little bit more >> benefit of the doubt and supportiveness. >> >> karen > _______________________________________________ > engagement-list mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/engagement-list _______________________________________________ engagement-list mailing list [email protected] https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/engagement-list
