Absolutely agree. The resistance to community input in GNOME
developers has long been a huge impediment to GNOME's wider success,
and has consistently driven users and outside developers away for
years.

I'm not sure how to go about including more community input, but
absolutely agree that doing so could be incredibly helpful to the
project as a whole long term.

Emily

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 8:15 AM, Nacho <[email protected]> wrote:
> Totally agree.
>
> There are some users (like me) used to do project management and testing (I
> do professionally, in an open source based company), but with no programming
> skills,  ready to work for GNOME but didn't get the chance as there are no
> tools ready for that.
>
> In my humble opinion project GNOME should be able to find a way to listen
> more to the community. Believe me, I tried before and it's extremely
> frustrating. I could be an active collaborator by now, but every time I
> tried, it looked almost like I was bothering developers, something that
> never happened in other open source projects.
>
> Most of that users are actually gone to other projects like Elementary,
> Budgie, Mate, Cinnamon, etc... GNOME still is my favorite desktop, would be
> amazing if it could find a way to make a huge community, not just
> developers, also designers, testers, translators and final users giving
> feedback.
>
> Just my opinion.
>
> Cheers,
>
> El 5 dic. 2017 5:23 a. m., "Sriram Ramkrishna" <[email protected]> escribió:
>>
>> We don't really have any structure when it comes to talking about
>> community input.  For instance, I see a lot of people talking about HiDPI
>> issues and how some applications like GIMP and Inkscape are hard to work
>> with.
>>
>> It would be good to collate these experiences and use it to drive GNOME
>> goals for the next cycle so that community at least knows that their input
>> drives some of what we prioritize during the cycle.  We can also add
>> downstreams to the conversation as well.  Traditionally, we've never done
>> this and frankly I find the whole process very opaque.  At the same time, it
>> works for the most part...
>>
>> I don't want to do anything now, but I thought I would put my thoughts on
>> this and see if we could talk about it at GUADEC as a topic.
>>
>> sri
>>
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