----- Original Message ----- > From: "Laszlo Hornyak" <[email protected]> > To: "Yair Zaslavsky" <[email protected]> > Cc: "Tomas Jelinek" <[email protected]>, "engine-devel" > <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 1:57:04 PM > Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] watchdog > > No what I meant is that > if the VM is a server { > not having a console connection to it does not mean that it is not used.
Used is a more general term than "someone is connected to" - for example, you may have a machine running some internal calculation which takes a considerable amount of time, and you may have a user that performs ssh to that machine (let's say once in an hour) and runs some utility that reports the status of the calculation. > } > > Therefore desktops on the same host with no console connection, they may be > better candidates for migration. You can connect to servers. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <[email protected]> > > To: "Tomas Jelinek" <[email protected]> > > Cc: "Laszlo Hornyak" <[email protected]>, "engine-devel" > > <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 12:26:35 PM > > Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] watchdog > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Tomas Jelinek" <[email protected]> > > > To: "Laszlo Hornyak" <[email protected]> > > > Cc: "engine-devel" <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 11:33:19 AM > > > Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] watchdog > > > > > > Good that you have come up with this! So we will make sure to keep this > > > info. > > > Thnx for coming up with it! > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Laszlo Hornyak" <[email protected]> > > > > To: "Tomas Jelinek" <[email protected]> > > > > Cc: "engine-devel" <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 10:25:28 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] watchdog > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Tomas Jelinek" <[email protected]> > > > > > To: "Laszlo Hornyak" <[email protected]> > > > > > Cc: "engine-devel" <[email protected]> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 10:02:16 AM > > > > > Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] watchdog > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Laszlo Hornyak" <[email protected]> > > > > > > To: "Itamar Heim" <[email protected]> > > > > > > Cc: "engine-devel" <[email protected]> > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:56:32 AM > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] watchdog > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > Isnt someone already working on removing the UI distinction between > > > > > > server > > > > > > and desktop? > > > > > Indeed :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However the desktop/server distinction could be useful for > > > > > > scheduling > > > > > > information, I hope that will remain. > > > > > There will be a combo box: "optimized for server/desktop". That one > > > > > will set up the dialog like you would open the new server/desktop > > > > > today. > > > > > But you will be able to change them - it will be just some sugar. But > > > > > there > > > > > is no reason > > > > > why would we enforce the disabling the e.g. soundcard for server. By > > > > > default > > > > > we will, but > > > > > you can enable it if you want. > > > > > > > > Ok, so in engine we will still have the VmType in vmStatic? > > > > > > > > I think it would make sense to use it in scheduling / load balancing > > > > - if a VM is a desktop and no user is connected to the console, then > > > > the > > > > VM > > > > is not in use, therefore it is a good candidate for saving power > > > > (hibernate, > > > > migrate, shutdown, or any other bad things that can happen to a VM) > > > > - if a VM is a server, usually no user connected, but it may still be > > > > used > > > > through its network. Therefore it may not be a good candidate to > > > > migrate. > > > > is this indeed a valid assumption ("if VM is a server..." ) that a user > > will > > less connect to it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: "Itamar Heim" <[email protected]> > > > > > > > To: "Laszlo Hornyak" <[email protected]> > > > > > > > Cc: "engine-devel" <[email protected]>, "Andrew Cathrow" > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 9:38:15 PM > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] watchdog > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 04/10/2013 04:59 PM, Laszlo Hornyak wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A new version of the watchdög feature is available in gerrit: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://gerrit.ovirt.org/13057 - db > > > > > > > > http://gerrit.ovirt.org/13058 - bll > > > > > > > > http://gerrit.ovirt.org/13059 - frontend > > > > > > > > http://gerrit.ovirt.org/13060 - rest > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Watchdog_engine_support > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since the last update the patchset has gone through major > > > > > > > > changes > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > meet > > > > > > > > the new architectureal and functional requirements. > > > > > > > > Also because of the rewrite this is again a preview version > > > > > > > > under > > > > > > > > testing > > > > > > > > with some missing functionality, therefore I re-introduced the > > > > > > > > [wip] > > > > > > > > flag > > > > > > > > on it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thx, > > > > > > > > Laszlo > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > Engine-devel mailing list > > > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/engine-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just a thought after looking at the feature page having different > > > > > > > HA > > > > > > > dialog for server/desktop - I'd consider removing the distinction > > > > > > > between desktop and server in the GUI wrt HA (i.e., just both > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > same > > > > > > > set of options) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (not blocking for this patch) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Engine-devel mailing list > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/engine-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Engine-devel mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/engine-devel > > > > > > _______________________________________________ Engine-devel mailing list [email protected] http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/engine-devel
