On 04/11/2013 01:57 PM, Laszlo Hornyak wrote:
No what I meant is that
if the VM is a server {
not having a console connection to it does not mean that it is not used.
}

Therefore desktops on the same host with no console connection, they may be 
better candidates for migration. You can connect to servers.

I'd actually like to lose the distinction between server and desktop other than a set of optimizations. i.e., if there is an optimization you want to make based on console being connected, model that and ask for that specifically (maybe I use desktop differently than you think)


----- Original Message -----
From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <[email protected]>
To: "Tomas Jelinek" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Laszlo Hornyak" <[email protected]>, "engine-devel" 
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Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 12:26:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] watchdog



----- Original Message -----
From: "Tomas Jelinek" <[email protected]>
To: "Laszlo Hornyak" <[email protected]>
Cc: "engine-devel" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 11:33:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] watchdog

Good that you have come up with this! So we will make sure to keep this
info.
Thnx for coming up with it!

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 10:25:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] watchdog



----- Original Message -----
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To: "Laszlo Hornyak" <[email protected]>
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Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 10:02:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] watchdog



----- Original Message -----
From: "Laszlo Hornyak" <[email protected]>
To: "Itamar Heim" <[email protected]>
Cc: "engine-devel" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:56:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] watchdog

Hi,

Isnt someone already working on removing the UI distinction between
server
and desktop?
Indeed :)


However the desktop/server distinction could be useful for scheduling
information, I hope that will remain.
There will be a combo box: "optimized for server/desktop". That one
will set up the dialog like you would open the new server/desktop
today.
But you will be able to change them - it will be just some sugar. But
there
is no reason
why would we enforce the disabling the e.g. soundcard for server. By
default
we will, but
you can enable it if you want.

Ok, so in engine we will still have the VmType in vmStatic?

I think it would make sense to use it in scheduling / load balancing
- if a VM is a desktop and no user is connected to the console, then the
VM
is not in use, therefore it is a good candidate for saving power
(hibernate,
migrate, shutdown, or any other bad things that can happen to a VM)
- if a VM is a server, usually no user connected, but it may still be
used
through its network. Therefore it may not be a good candidate to migrate.

is this indeed a valid assumption ("if VM is a server..." ) that a user will
less connect to it?





----- Original Message -----
From: "Itamar Heim" <[email protected]>
To: "Laszlo Hornyak" <[email protected]>
Cc: "engine-devel" <[email protected]>, "Andrew Cathrow"
<[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 9:38:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] watchdog

On 04/10/2013 04:59 PM, Laszlo Hornyak wrote:
Hi,

A new version of the watchdög feature is available in gerrit:

http://gerrit.ovirt.org/13057 - db
http://gerrit.ovirt.org/13058 - bll
http://gerrit.ovirt.org/13059 - frontend
http://gerrit.ovirt.org/13060 - rest

http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Watchdog_engine_support

Since the last update the patchset has gone through major changes
to
meet
the new architectureal and functional requirements.
Also because of the rewrite this is again a preview version under
testing
with some missing functionality, therefore I re-introduced the
[wip]
flag
on it.

Thx,
Laszlo
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just a thought after looking at the feature page having different
HA
dialog for server/desktop - I'd consider removing the distinction
between desktop and server in the GUI wrt HA (i.e., just both have
same
set of options)

(not blocking for this patch)


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