Hi Pablo Josney Charles John Edward Oshiro and all, I was so stunned by the spectacle of thousands of Chinese students repeating after the host or hostess of a ceremony in English that I became speechless!!!
I'm curious about what Charles,John or Edward think of it themselves!;) As what I have observed myself since childhood,Orientals are either fond of or used to group activities. They tend to feel more secure or braver when among groups and this power as one gives them a sense of belonging or something like that... I recall there was a famous slogan of one of the biggest language centres in Taiwan: Conquer English,come to Gram(Language Centre)! Did you get the picture(of what I tried to get across to you)? Many orientals have to learn English whether they like it or not as it represents better grades and better lives,but they regard it as their enemy!LOL They also believe in repetitions and memorizations instead of independent thinking which is a fundamental difference between Western education and Oriental one!!! I've been trying to figure out the many reasons why Orientals can't seem to master languages as fast as other non-English speakers. Edward was very right the other day! Once they adapt the wrong methods,they waste too much time,money and energy going nowhere without significant progress...which is very sad. to me..:( And Charles,haha!:D I'm funny as to make you laugh or as a weird person? Please elaborate on your findings,will you?LOL And Edward,what's the reason why you can't log on TED in Korea? And John,about the quote form Josney's ending message, I had a hard time recalling where it was from,too!LOL I suppose it's Confusius' words...(now and today because maybe tomorrow I'll recall the exact words in Chinese.LOL) Nice day to us all! Pln On Jun 6, 7:46 pm, Pablo <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Pln and all! > > I already watched the video. I didn't know or had forgotten very long > ago, about The Tayronas (The Lost City), an indigenous people who > weren't touched for the Spaniards during conquest times. It's a shame > a don't know enough even about my own country! Well, here a link for > some other interested from my > country:http://www.sacredland.org/index.php/sierra-nevada-de-santa-marta/. > > Well, tonight I watched this video: > > http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/jay_walker_on_the_world_s_english_... > > Could somebody please tell us if in oriental countries like China, > English is taught like we see at the end of that video? I mean, in > public parks or scenarios in front of crowds of students repeating > phrases in unison? > > I wonder if that kind of strategy could work for numerous classes like > the ones we usually have? (around 40 students per a single (poor) > teacher). > > Thank you, > > Pablo > > On Jun 6, 4:50 am, pln471 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: pln471 <[email protected]> > > Date: Jun 6, 11:10 am > > Subject: DISCUSSION OF THE WEEK:WHAT IS CULTURE?CHOOSE THE 4 FACTORS > > > WHICH YOU THINK ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT... > > To: ESL Podcast > > > Hi Claire Edward Charles John Ed Elham Pablo Briana and all other > > quiet members,;) > > > So nice to meet you,our newest or most active faces and > > voices,Edward,Charles and John recently!!! > > > I have been watching TED(idea worth spreading),an inspirational site > > provided by Pablo recently. > > > Here's one talk on endangered culture by Wade Davis,National > > Geographic explorer. > > I'd like to share the talk with all of you because it relates to this > > thread started by Claire. > > > Don't worry too much about not understanding him because he does talk > > very fast!LOL > > There are 23 languages' translations as Pablo mentioned were provided > > by volunteer translators. > > So you can check their quality of translation while watching it!;) > > > Here you go:http://www.ted.com/talks/ > > wade_davis_on_endangered_cultures.html > > > I hope it will enlighten you one way or another as to raise our > > awareness of how important minority languages and cultures are!!! > > > Great weekend,everyone! > > Pln > > > On Jun 6, 10:45 am, Charles <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hi Claire, > > > > I guess you are a professor because of your writing skill and > > > thinking.Nice > > > to meet you. > > > > About the culture things,I don't have too much to say.You know,this is not > > > my field.I am still in trouble with the presents,gifts and drinks things > > > in > > > China,even though I have already lived here for many years. > > > > The culture here is little confusing.With same age educated friends,we > > > have > > > fun together and don't care culture too much.With people who is older than > > > us,showing some respects will be OK.Certainly,having some presents is > > > better. Also,there is a huge difference between in city and in rural. > > > > As the globalization going,People adore high-tech and business.We get > > > worths > > > in business and better live in high-tech. > > > > 2009/6/6 Edward <[email protected]> > > > > > Hello everybody. > > > > Hello Charles and Claire.. > > > > > Thank you for your question and an opinion. > > > > > I think that culture is very important to learn english, > > > > Because English and others(Korean) are different from language family > > > > and culture. > > > > > It was for the last several years that Foreigners increased rapidly > > > > into Korea. > > > > Our World is small But I'm not speak english well. so I try to learn > > > > english. > > > > > I like this ESL Podcast groups. > > > > > Have a good time. > > > > > Edward Park. > > > > > On 6월6일, 오전6시46분, claire <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Hello Elham Charles Edward John and all other shy members,;) > > > > > > It's always nice to see new or silent members finally speak up!LOL > > > > > They always make me day,and I'm sure Pln,Pablo and Ed will share my > > > > > feelings,as well!;) > > > > > > Charles,it's very nice of you to have brought this question up: > > > > > Why should we think about this kind of questions?;) > > > > > > When you realize and witness the world is very much influenced by > > > > > American or Japanese culture(in Asia),is it a good sign? > > > > > > Is there anything we can do to stop it or the GLOBALIZATION? > > > > > > Every nation has its own identity which is their own culture,sometimes > > > > > they may fear that their culture is under threat of a more powerful > > > > > nation... > > > > > And they may consider it as a cultural crisis! > > > > > Then at a time like this,you will find Q1 is quite important as how a > > > > > culture is created or cultivated... > > > > > > As for Q2,it's all about business or social protocol. > > > > > I asked the question because I thought this group is the ideal place > > > > > for me to gather the 1st hand information from members from all over > > > > > the world!!! > > > > > It's much more fun than to get it from some site called executive > > > > > planet for me! > > > > > > Last week,I was asked by an European businessman who was about to go > > > > > on a business trip to China: > > > > > a) What presents to buy for my Chinese suppliers or contacts? > > > > > b) Should I give the gift to them before or after the deal? > > > > > c) If they organise some sightseeing tours for me on the > > > > > weekend,should I accept it,even though I have a terrible jet lag? > > > > > d) If they offer me drinks more than I can afford,can I refuse them > > > > > but won't offend them? > > > > > > It's not only important for business people but also for overseas- > > > > > study students to know more about the country where they're about to > > > > > stay and the people who they are about to live with... > > > > > > These are called GROUNDWORK. > > > > > The better prepared you are,the more likely you'll have a pleasant > > > > > stay or a successful deal!;) > > > > > > Good night and nice weekend to us all! > > > > > Claire > > > > > On Jun 5, 2:23 pm, Charles <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Hello everybody, > > > > > > I am Charles,a English speaker.I don't know why we should think > > > > > > about > > > > this > > > > > > kind of questions,but my answers are below > > > > > > > The most important IN CREATING A CULTURE are #1,social customs and > > > > > > traditions;#2,arts(include language);#3,ideas and > > > > > > beliefs;#4,ceremonies > > > > and > > > > > > festivals. > > > > > > > The second question is great.EVERYTHING IS BUSINESS. > > > > > > > The most important thing in BUSINESS is profile,then we consider > > > > > > about > > > > > > socializing with > > > > > > contacts and reliable.- 원본 텍스트 숨기기 - > > > > > > - 원본 텍스트 보기 -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "English Learner's Cafe" group. 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