On 05/10/2014 12:36 PM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
> On 05.10.14 10:54, Bob Henson wrote:
>> I must say that the new Enigmail is much more unnecessarily
>> complicated to set up and to use than the old one - and I cannot
>> see the reason for the changes. I'm sure there is one, but the new,
>> cumbersome selection options in the "Write" window headers are a
>> step in the wrong direction.
> 
> The reason is that we wanted to be more explicit about what is going
> on. Whether or not an email is encrypted (or signed) depends on
> several sometimes contradictory rule-sets. The most important are:
> * global defaults
> * account-specific defaults
> * per-recipient rules
> * whether or not you reply to an encrypted mail
> 
> In previous versions of Enigmail, you could enable encryption
> manually, and yet your email was sent unencrypted (or vice versa). We
> thought that this is difficult to understand.
> 
> If you have suggestions for how to improve the menu entries, we will
> gladly listen.
> 
I just think that they have been made unnecessarily complicated.

In the Thunderbird account settings the default settings are fine,
except that enabling "Use PGP/MIME by Default" causes the problem about
which I wrote initially if enabled on it's own - so it probably should
be greyed out unless one of the other default items is ticked. If it's a
bug and shouldn't act as it does, then obviously it needs fixing. I
cannot see that the options under "After application of defaults and
rules" are of any use at all - if the defaults and rules have already
been applied these two options seem irrelevant to me - maybe there are
reasons I cannot see?

The per-recipient rules make sense to me, and if they override all other
settings should create no problems.

The Thunderbird "Write" window is unnecessarily confusing and
duplications abound. I cannot see any point whatever in having the
"Enigmail encryption and signing settings" menu that drops down from
clicking the Enigmail button, and I would remove it altogether. The drop
down at the side of the button only needs to have on/off toggles for
"Sign", "Encrypt", and Use PGP/MIME - for people like me to override all
previous default other settings, or lack of settings, in my case. That's
all I ever used to use, except for a couple of per-recipient rules. The
overcomplicated drop down is more or less duplicated in the Enimail Menu
bar button in the Write window, so those could be removed to simplify
matters - particular the strange and even more unnecessary submenus that
pop out from the first three items.

I'm sure there are reasons for some of these - but I cannot see them.
Basically, what I am saying is that it was fine before it was altered
and has been for years. You said that, before, "In previous versions of
Enigmail, you could enable encryption manually, and yet your email was
sent unencrypted (or vice versa). We thought that this is difficult to
understand." I cannot understand this as I never noticed a problem
before. However if it was a bug, then it just needed fixing.

Perhaps, I'm missing something though - I'm getting a bit old now :-)

Regards,

Bob



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