Many projects face hardships. I am optimistic still. Though I maybe seen as troublesome, unwanted, bad apple, etc by some. It is good to bring such issues up and discuss them. Problems do not solve themselves.
On Thu, 01 Mar 2018 19:28:15 +0000 Stephen Houston <smhousto...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Community based projects can't succeed > in an environment where there is seemingly no project management and > discussions only happen when a feature or change is pushed and one > person overrides it. This project needs to have more project > management. Goals need to be laid out. Road maps need to be > developed. Release plans need to be created and adhered to. This > project needs structure, I fully agree on organization and structure! To many think volunteer and FOSS projects do not need organization and leadership. Those that can organize can thrive. Those who cannot, do not. > and frankly this structure needs to come > from more than just one person. There needs to be a team of project > managers who determine whether changes, features, or proposal are > accepted, not only one person. There needs to be a team of project > managers determining the direction of the project and developing road > maps for it. This team needs to be represented of our developers, > our corporate interests, and our community user base. Having a team > will keep from personal bias, desires, or egos getting in the way. > Once we have some structure in place, it will become much easier for > us to band together to work towards meeting our goals. I would caution a move to decision by committee. It was the almost death of Apple. It has not really been a good thing for other organizations. Best example is Gentoo. Since its move to a Gentoo Council. Gentoo has had more issues with leadership, direction, etc. IMHO it had a better initial approach to management. Something like this may work for E. https://www.gentoo.org/glep/glep-0004.html Say Raster is top. Then a managers team below. Then each project has its own. Now E/EFL does not really have projects in the same sense. I would say someone would be like Elementary Manager, EINA, etc. Parts of EFL a person would be the manager for, working with other managers, and any team beneath them. Someone for E, maybe a modules/bryce manager, etc. A Wayland manager, X11, etc. Various parts, Windows OS, OS X, etc. IMHO this has been total crap and why Gentoo has had so many issues since its early years. GLEP-39 replaces GLEP-4, management structure https://www.gentoo.org/glep/glep-0039.html I also like Debians approach of an annually elected leader. https://www.debian.org/devel/leader https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Debian_project_leaders I highly recommend using existing forms of structure and leadership or some combination there of that works. Gentoo has always experimented with unique structure and organization that is really a failed experiment. Many have yet to get past denial and make effort to correct. Just doubling down on status quo and trying to make something that will never work, work... Read Daniel Robbins comments here. It tells the tail of how the Gentoo Council came to be... It very much is a failed experiment. https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-project/message/3ac5418dd061fc53f4b8d55a99773f4c Extra comments IMHO there is always going to be various social issues around anything technical. Many technical people are not great a social stuff in person or in general. Not insulting anyone, we all have strengths and weaknesses. Even non technical, the world has a hard time getting along in general. FOSS projects cross many boarders, cultures, etc. Its natural there be issues a a result of such. But seems the era of thick skin etc is dead, its now Code of Conduct, ban, punish, drive away etc. Those things do not help grow communities. -- William L. Thomson Jr.
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