On Fri, 1 Aug 2008, Michael Jennings wrote:

> On Friday, 01 August 2008, at 19:29:25 (+0200),
> Vincent Torri wrote:
>
>> As always, everyone is doing is job without mentioning it. I was not
>> aware of a redesign of the website, i don't know what it will look
>> like.
>>
>> At least, you should send a mail about that, also you should
>> describe the design, to see if everyone agree on it, etc... That
>> what should have done if you care about the
>> "community"... Especially about the web site.
>
> Well, apparently that's not true.  Nobody discussed Exchange in public
> until it was already done, and everyone seems to love it.  So clearly
> doing things in secret is not as uncaring toward the community as you
> imply.

So what ? Just an example of something that is nice (that is exchange) 
does not mean that everything will be nice. As it seems that you like 
examples, the current design of the website is an horror. raster has 
imposed it to us.

> If he wants to work in his own private cathedral, let him.  It's not
> hurting anyone.  If nobody likes the end result, we don't have to use
> it.

You completely miss the point, here. You talk about the pov of us ("we 
don't have to use it". Here it's not only us (the devs, putting stuff in 
it, etc...), it's also about the users of enlightenment and the efl.

I don't want that the e site being imposed without us being warned about 
such *important* change. And yes, i really think that it can hurt some 
people if it is not correctly done.

Finally, your comment is completely against a "community". For me, it 
means that if someone does some work, he should at least mention it, and 
describe it a bit.

On the contrary, I consider that your remark is against a community arounf 
e17 and the efl.

Vincent

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