I think that the community. if it exists, should be involved!!! Then if
raster doesn't mind the e users opinion and does what he belivies right, it
isn't very important. But blog, write the plans and the projects in ml on
the site on blogs where u want. Many users are tired to see that it changed
nothing and that the the topic in ml are the same afrter years of
developement. E is a great project but the world doesn't wait it...

My opinion it isn't important. I'm nothing for e project but i'm sure that
other users and developers, like me, maybe won't support e for the future.

Remember where there isn't a good community, there aren't new good developer
and the projects fail with the passing of time...

Bye

2008/8/1 Ian Caldwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:05 AM, Downknew Wise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>> Sorry... i've read only now the other mails. I'll wait for the new e
>> website... but would be nice if the webdesigner involved the community in
>> the developement, at least with the mailing list...
>>
>> With the last mails i 've understand that this isn't a community... and e
>> cannot have its community... Even the developers have different street in
>> the coding and there aren't public plans for the future. E seems
>> unsupported
>> and closed!!!
>
> We're all about  community but someone has to have the ultimate say in
> order to get things done. That person is raster. Being that he's busy it
> takes a while to get things cleared through him. look at the other threads
> and chime in. I never said the community wouldn't be involved.
> Exchange was done that way because so many people disliked the idea, but
> once it was done everyone loved it.
>
>>
>>
>> It's a waste of time... i'm very sad... I lost all my wishes on this
>> project...
>>
>
>>
>> 2008/8/1 Downknew Wise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> > I've downloaded the e site from cvs. The php backend it's ok but ther's
>> a
>> > little problem: seems that the graphic isn't fully divided from the
>> code. In
>> > a website complex, such as this, the graphic side should be indipendent
>> from
>> > the backend to make the update work and the enhancements, the graphic
>> > innovations easy to implement.
>> >
>> > In this weekend i'll try to make a new usable layout which i wish could
>> be
>> > discussed by the ml.
>> >
>> > My 2 cents
>> >
>> >
>> > 2008/8/1 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >
>> > On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Downknew Wise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Right!!!
>> >> >
>> >> > Now the site could have all the contents and the documentation
>> necessary
>> >> to
>> >> > the user but it isn't easy to find the informations which you are
>> >> looking
>> >> > for,
>> >> >
>> >> > I have a question. Why e web site has that layout? The logo on top
>> it's
>> >> too
>> >> > big and hide the really contents. Menu is divised in two part on the
>> top
>> >> > corners... Why? The colours are too much gray and black. It isn't a
>> text
>> >> it
>> >> > should be a website!!! Links are too similar to simple text. This is
>> my
>> >> > opinion but i'm sure that who knows the usability web rules has the
>> same
>> >> my
>> >> > ideas. We could use a cms for the site if isn't possible to work on
>> it.
>> >>
>> >> because raster did it like that :-D
>> >> I'm not sure why people don't want to use a cms, but I've being told
>> >> that they want to keep like that (cvs based).
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > I'm a website developer so i'm ready to help if it is necessary!!!
>> >>
>> >> Please provide a better site layout, one of the developers can add it
>> >> to the website cvs project. I really like Exchange, but maybe you have
>> >> an even better idea.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
>> >> http://profusion.mobi embedded systems
>> >> --------------------------------------
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>> >> Skype: gsbarbieri
>> >> Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202
>> >>
>> >
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