On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 00:40:04 -0500 "Nathan Ingersoll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> Since the most recent license flamewar was triggered by the motivation > of community building, I think now would be an appropriate time to > brainstorm some additional ideas for helping to build the community > around E. hear hear. positive moves. :) > One idea I discussed with Vincent today is that our lack of releases > has caused many users to lose interest and stop taking notice of the > project. I realize that there is a lot of talk surrounding changes to > core infrastructure (data lib, graphics, scripting language, etc), but > has there been any thought recently put into how our release process > should be structured? There used to be a TODO list for e17, and that > has been moved to Trac, but has anyone took a hard look at what is > necessary for cutting a stable release? Even if we don't release e17 > 1.0, we may be able to move the core libs towards releases like eet. yeah. i agree we need releases. it's probably our biggest issue. right now in lib-space i'd want to clean up 2 major thnigs that are currently underway: 1. eina - move fully to using it. remove all data stuff from ecore/evas - provide compatibility macros so code at least compiles - then 1 macro at a time, remove/fix then. 2. edje - i have been mulling dropping embryo in favor of lua. let's discuss? (reasons - better full-scripting support with more full language support. lua seems to be one of the best fits of the bill). vincent covers this... the reason though is i would probably want to drop embryo... thus not wanting to release until done. if i knuckle down i could get lua stuff done in a shortish-space of time... as for evas api changes - if we break what we break now - lets do it. the question is, how long will it take to break it and fix things up. do what we can do that is a quick and fast fix. anything that will take a while to fix... will be bad. btw - i think we might just go for 1.0 - and when we break api/abi - go for 2.0, but queue up changes that break api/abi. i have always wanted to have a 1.0 release that doesn't break.. for a LOOONG time afterwards (many years). but maybe that is really too much of a dream and reality is to just clean up the immediate breaks/changes and dump things out the door. e17 (wm) itself has a longer list - but lets look at efl right now. we get efl releases out - e17 next. so for efl - crank out 1.0's - and when/if we break.. 2.0's etc. etc. nathan is right - in theory we probably should be at 3.0 for evas... :) as for blogging - yes. we need this. this is good. i've always liked the idea of a tech-interested person that reads cvs commit logs, hangs on irc and reads email.. and kind of blogs about the interesting bits. :) like a PR guy... :) i believe in freedom of opinion and expression. i believe in people just getting up and doing what they think is right. of couse if you wish - discuss, but don't discuss to death. DO DO DO. as long as peoples opinions and ideas are based on actual fact (and not fiction)... it's all good!. > Nathan > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
