On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 2:15 PM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 3-Aug-08, at 1:04 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:56 PM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 3-Aug-08, at 12:43 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 7:31 AM, Andreas Volz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems the license question is still very much discussed. Until now I
>>>>> didn't say much about it. But now I like to add my 2 cents to that
>>>>> topic.
>>>>>
>>>>> At work we develop software for embedded devices. In most cases is the
>>>>> result a commercial closed-source product.
>>>>>
>>>>> For sure we used open source software in the past (not based on EFL
>>>>> until now!). So GPL is no option. The LGPL would be an option. But
>>>>> in most cases it's not an option as good as BSD (better say MIT). The
>>>>> reason is that in most cases it's needed to modify the library itself.
>>>>> For example if there's a Win32 and a Linux port, but no WinCE port. For
>>>>> sure one could contribute the changes back to the open source project.
>>>>> But in most cases this doesn't happen because of time or interest.
>>>>
>>>> This is exactly what companies that contribute back, like ProFUSION
>>>> and others, dislike. We do contribute back and we expect that others
>>>> do that, we want others to play fair.
>>>>
>>>
>>> This is also what other companies that contribute to the EFL like. They
>>> want
>>> to be able to hold some stuff back while giving other stuff back to the
>>> community.
>>
>> Yes, and in this case why don't they create another library? If they
>> need to modify the library we all use, then why not give it back?
>> Those that are complaining find that wrong and unfair.
>
> Maybe the work they're doing isn't useful for the rest of the community.

that's up to the community to decide.


> Maybe they had to sign an NDA to work with a specific chipset and can't give
> back.

I don't care.


> Maybe they implement something that is central to their business and
> don't want to give away the keys to the kingdom but are willing to help with
> other parts of the lib in the public.

Everything can be considered the central business, even doing packages
and assembling the pieces together (see ubuntu). And I don't care,
that's the company problem, not the community problem.

-- 
Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
http://profusion.mobi embedded systems
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