On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 21:35, Ian Caldwell <inchost...@gmail.com> wrote:
> maybe you could put it on the trac wiki initially to form the story
> throughout the week so that everyone can contribute and say a set time on
> Sunday that info will be grabbed and posted on enlightenment.org and ml's.

That's exactly what I had in mind, maybe it didn't come right through
in the too-long mail. :)

> On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
> <barbi...@profusion.mobi> wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Thomas Gstädtner
>> <tho...@gstaedtner.net> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > in the "Twitter"-thread this week on the devel ML we had a discussion
>> > about how we could make a serious and regular "news"-section for
>> > E.org, not only external on twitter/facebook/etcpp.
>> > I already did some suggestions, but now I'd like to make it more
>> > concrete:
>> > As I see it, it would be best to have the news in a kind of digest
>> > form, not a lot of single items (that is what the existing twitter
>> > feed can be used for).
>> > Many projects do it based on a regular date - be it weekly, monthly or
>> > per quarter - I think this concept would be also great for E.
>> > As the twitter feed contains many small things of all kind, I think
>> > the news on E.org should be only more relevant stuff for the users
>> > (not developers!) that do not want to read the mailinglists,
>> > twitter-feeds, and similar on a regular basis. Of course this doesn't
>> > mean developers should be completely left out - big stuff like bigger
>> > API-changes could be also announced that way (but not every trivial
>> > thing, that's what the SVN commit list is for).
>> >
>> > E.org currently has a news section, but it is not well maintained, or
>> > let's say it is only used for big announcements (it only contains big
>> > releases like new EFL/E snapshots, EWL releases, the SVN move and so
>> > on). So I think this section should be renamed to "Announcements",
>> > because this is what it is used for. Big Ass Announcements.
>> > Additionally there should be the "News" section for stuff that matters
>> > but isn't _that_ important. That's where I'd like to see what I said
>> > above.
>> >
>> > I think Weekly News would fit for E, because users have regular
>> > information about interesting things (and there are a lot of
>> > interesting things in a week or two) and it is not too much overkill
>> > like daily or per-item based news. If there should be a week with not
>> > that much changes it could be temporarily bi-weekly.
>> > As I said in the twitter thread: I'd be free to write this if you
>> > think it's useful. But even better would be if it could be more
>> > collaborative. So we could use the SVN, the Wiki (probably the best
>> > way), or if you don't want it there my personal public git (with write
>> > access for everyone interested in taking part) to collect all
>> > interesting stuff over the week and post it at Sunday evening on E.org
>> > and probably as digest on the E-Users ML.
>> >
>> > Here's how I imagine it:
>> >
>> > ________________________________________________________________
>> >
>> > Enlightenment Weekly News 2009/20
>> > =================================
>> >
>> > SVN News:
>> > ---------
>> > The drawer-module received initial support for composite plugins
>> > (http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/changeset/40644) and a winlist plugin
>> > (http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/changeset/40666).
>> >
>> > Sergey Semernin is working hard on E's file manager and it definitely
>> > pays off:
>> > E_fm2 now has full support for in-place renaming and custom
>> > per-directory
>> > backgrounds (http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/changeset/40668).
>> > There have been a lot more patches from him which are or are not yet in
>> > SVN.
>> >
>> > Community News:
>> > ---------------
>> >
>> > Gustavo Barbieri is planning to rework the notification (libnotify)
>> > module and
>> > would like to drop the shelf-gadget of the module. If this feature is
>> > important
>> > to you, feel free to take part in the discussion on both mailinglists
>> > ("notification module: how do you use it?").
>> >
>> > Massimiliano Calamelli started a Twitter-feed about E development.
>> > If you're not following the SVN commits (or probably even if) this is a
>> > great
>> > source for all sort of new stuff in or around E.
>> >
>> > Inofficial chances to meet E developers:
>> > Raster will be on a trip through Europe between may 19th and june 9th.
>> > For more information check the ML ("berlin/paris/berne... who's
>> > around?") -
>> > and don't forget to bring your sticks!
>> > Gustavo will be at Ubuntu Dev Summit in Barcelona (19-31 May). Don't
>> > miss your
>> > chance to get your own SPANK SPANK shirt!
>> > ________________________________________________________________
>> >
>> > Please share your opinion,
>>
>> Excellent idea! This would be good for project users and also
>> outsiders (I know I read gnome/kde news to keep informed about
>> "others").
>>
>> As for media, I'd say wiki (trac) is good and easy, but I see no
>> problem in user other stuff. I'd like to have rich text capabilities
>> so we can inline images (screenshots, etc) and screencasts, making it
>> even more interesting.
>>

I fully agree, I'd also suggest a plain-text version as mail digest
and an illustrated rich-text version for http.
The only thing missing is where to put it. In general the wiki could
be used to more than collecting content over the week to post it on
another platform (e.g. E.org main site), it could also be used as only
platform. But that would make it kind of difficult 1) to differ the
over-the-week progress from the final result (if we would use that
weekly concept) and 2) pretty hard to find for "outsiders" because
trac might be to find over a link on E.org but under the sketchy name
"Tracker" and with too much information overkill on the trac starting
page.
I think it would have to be easier to find for people who want it
quick and easy and don't want to spend half an hour on the site.

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